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Who Is Your Country's Greatest?

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 4:03 am
by matrixman
Not sure if this belongs here or in the Close. You decide. :)

For the past month in Canada, we've been following "The Greatest Canadian," a TV special inspired by a BBC project. Because the "winner" is determined by votes from the public, each episode features a different advocate who argues the case for each of the top 10 nominees in the contest. Depending on how persuasive and passionate the presenter's argument is, it could be enough to decide the vote in his or her candidate's favor. Aside from being fun to watch, this kind of national project gives citizens the opportunity to learn about those who have shaped the country in which they live, in one way or another.

Right now, I'm heavily inclined to vote for Terry Fox, who in 1980 ran his cross-country Marathon of Hope to raise money for cancer research. Fox had been diagnosed with osteogenic sarcoma in his right leg, a cancerous tumor that makes the bone go soft. To stop the spread of cancer, his leg was amputated 6 inches above the knee. So it was with an artificial leg (and primitive by today's standards) that Fox launched his run. Despite initial apathy (drivers were ignoring him and speeding past, and some were forcing him off the road because they didn't know what he was doing) and sometimes brutal summer heat, Fox kept up a staggering pace of 26 miles per day--a marathon every day--for nearly 6 months straight. In total, Fox ran a mind-boggling 3,339 miles before he was forced to stop. The cancer had invaded his lungs, and it would claim his life before he could complete his run across the country. By February 1981, he had raised $24.17 million, equalling Canada's population at the time. His lasting legacy: Terry Fox Runs are held yearly in 60 countries now and over $360 million have been raised for cancer research.

But enough about Canadians. In the spirit of learning, I want to ask all of you here at the Watch: who would you say is the greatest citizen of your own country? Who is the greatest American? The greatest Swede? The greatest Australian? And so on and so forth. Maybe the UK gets a little complicated; is it better to break it down into greatest English, Irish, Welsh and Scottish? Forgive me if I've got those distinctions wrong.

Please speak up and add your voice. I want to know about your country's icons. They could be living or dead. They can be anyone, as long as they are citizens of your country.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 4:27 am
by Worm of Despite

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 4:32 am
by dennisrwood
Abraham Lincoln. freed the slaves. stood for his principles and died for it. i would also nominate John Brown for the same reason.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 4:46 am
by Edge
We had a 'Greatest South African' TV special here months back, also based on 'The Greatest Britons' (which incidentally was won by Winston Churchill).

The only way they could make it work here, was to make it in effect 'the greatest South African besides Nelson Mandela'. Otherwise there simply be no competition; it would be a foregone conclusion.

Personally, my vote goes to JRR Tolkien. :D

Or maybe Charlize Theron.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:57 am
by ChoChiyo
The greatest American, in my book, is my boss, Jay Martini. He may not be famous or destined for accolades of a global nature, but he takes kids who've been crumpled up and thrown away by everyone else--even their parents--kids who have no regard or respect for anything or anybody--especially themselves, and gives them hope and a chance.

I've seen so MANY kids turn completely around because of Jay and his vision for troubled kids. These kids were destined for Prison or the Graveyard, and Jay gave them back themselves--

it's a beautiful thing.

I don't know anyone better anywhere.

He'd remind me of Jesus Christ if he didn't have the unfortunte inclination to grab people around the neck and give them "Power Noogies" or smack the backs of their heads and call them "numb nutz" when they do something stupid. Some how I just can't picture Jesus doing that....

OH--and I should mention that he does these things to both students and staff. He's a riot.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:04 pm
by Cail
Abe Lincoln freed the slaves under duress.

Ben Franklin, hands down, greatest American.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:52 pm
by Gil galad
I have to say that in New Zealand, Sir Edmund Hillary, the man who first climbed Mount Everest is one of our greats. He may not be the greatest but he is one of the most popular and respected public figures we have, never failing to show the good qualities we look for in people.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 7:18 pm
by hierachy
Newton.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:56 pm
by Bucky OHare
Edge wrote:We had a 'Greatest South African' TV special here months back, also based on 'The Greatest Britons' (which incidentally was won by Winston Churchill).[/size]
Bah! Charles Darwin was robbed!!

(or maybe Isaac Newton, I never did make up my mind.)

Evolution and Gravity. We'd all be falling off the planet or having silly thoughts about the world being created by God if it weren't for Darwin and Newton.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:59 pm
by lhaughlhann
Thing is though, the canned the Greatest South African after the public started voting in people like Hendrik Vervoet, Eugene Terrblanche etc ahead of Steve Biko and the like. 'nuf said...

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:18 pm
by Alynna Lis Eachann
Hmm, greatest Pole, huh? Pope John Paul II, I guess (and that's saying something, coming from a strident agnostic). Then maybe Copernicus. Joseph Conrad, too, just because I love dark and depressing stories (Gee, I wonder why I read SRD?).

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:41 pm
by Fist and Faith
Hey, I saw the Terry Fox movie years ago! The coolest part was when the van that was driving behind him during his trek was pulled over by a dirty, nasty looking motorcycle gang. The ugliest father-raper of them all comes up to the driver's window, and we're thinking, "Oh crap. What's this @@#$%$$% going to do, rob the money Terry's raised so far? Beat him up? What?!" So he sticks his fist into the window and drops a huge roll of cash into the driver's hand!! What a great scene!! Sure made me feel like an idiot!! ("How difficult can that be, Fist?" Shaddup!)


Greatest American? Well, I'm not gonna name any names, because I don't want to embarass anyone. But my second choice might be MLK.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:54 pm
by variol son
Either Edmund Hillary, the first man to climb Mt Everest, or Kate Shephard, the first woman in the world to vote in a national election.

Sum sui generis
Vs

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:45 pm
by lhaughlhann
Oh, Jan Smuts, part founder of the UN.

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:19 am
by Sheol
Undiputeibly it has to be Nikola Tesla. He invented the radio, the vaccume tube amplifier, flourescent lights, neon lights, the Tesla coil, and alternating current power. He disovered x-rays, designed the Hoover Dam, and created the sonar. He had over 600 pattents and defined electricity and the world of today. Without his contributions I doubt that you would be able to read this, and I probibly couldn't post this. All that he did for the world and everybody forgot him. Much of what he did was robbed from him by Tom Edison who he claimed was not a true inventor. Other people got credit for what he did and he was still forgotten. He died pennyless and alone. I think he did more for the world than just the U.S. but that is just me.

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:22 am
by dennisrwood
and Marconi lost the patent fight in court to Tesla. Tesla and Einstein, the two greatest geniuses of the last century.

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:01 pm
by dANdeLION
George W. Bush.


Spoiler
Okay, I admit I'm trying to get a rise out of you guys.

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:26 pm
by Revan
No-one, everyone from England sucks... maybe tolkien... but that's it.

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:25 pm
by dANdeLION
C. S. Lewis was from England, too.

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:31 pm
by Revan
dANdeLION wrote:C. S. Lewis was from England, too.
Who? :-|