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Lord Kevin's Lament
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:47 am
by Sheol
I was rereading TIW and I got to Lord Kevin's Lament not to long ago. There are a few of the lines that really hit me.
...that beauty and truth should pass utterly from the Earth?
It is at the end of the lament too but this one struck me first. Does this have anything to do with Shall Pass Utterly? I like to think that this has something to do with Kevin's Dirt. It has caused beauty and truth to pass from the land. Maybe it will consume more than just The Land. Ideas?
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:54 am
by I'm Murrin
Yeah, the title of book three is pretty portentous, but perhaps this should be in Runes discussion?
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:19 pm
by Sheol
I thought it might need to be here because it might explain a little of the story of the Last Chronicles. But I might also be looking in to it to much.
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:15 pm
by drew
Berek was the first to say that "Beauty and truth shall pass utterly from the Land"-he said it in despair on the slopes of Mt Thunder. I think that it had come to be kind of a code of ethics for the Lords.."Do not Let Truth and Beauty Pass utterly!"
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:53 pm
by wayfriend
I think that "Shall Pass Utterly" is simply a poetic reference to the danger of the Earth beyond destroyed or overrun by the Despiser.
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:09 am
by Variol Farseer
Funny I should happen across this thread just now. The other day I got an anonymous phone call from a guy who made Darth Vader sound like Mickey Mouse. Wrong number, obviously, but when I told him so he spent about 15 minutes calling me 'fey' and 'anile' and a few things I had to look up in an unabridged dictionary.
Apparently he was someone connected with the editorial department at Putnam, because once he had settled down a bit, he regaled me with interesting spoilers for Shall Pass Utterly. Apparently the idea is that beauty and truth really shall pass utterly from the Earth. As for The Last Dark, he said: 'Not even my Ravers can guess at the eschatic magnificence of my ultimate triumph! My Enemy shall be --'
Then the phone went dead. But I gather that the Earth will go through torments that make the Sunbane look like a candy-coated Sunday picnic in Happy Happy Land. Imagine going through a caesure with a hangover . . . permanently.
Excuse me while I shudder.
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:59 am
by MrKABC
Funny I should happen across this thread just now. The other day I got an anonymous phone call from a guy who made Darth Vader sound like Mickey Mouse. Wrong number, obviously, but when I told him so he spent about 15 minutes calling me 'fey' and 'anile' and a few things I had to look up in an unabridged dictionary.
Did he by chance call you a "groveler" and ask you if you wanted to "bandy falsehoods" with him? I am curious.
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:11 am
by Variol Farseer
MrKABC wrote:Did he by chance call you a "groveler" and ask you if you wanted to "bandy falsehoods" with him? I am curious.
Maybe he did. The line quality wasn't very good, and I thought he was asking for Grover, who wanted some candied balsa wood. Clearly your interpretation makes better sense.
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:13 pm
by native
drew wrote:Berek was the first to say that "Beauty and truth shall pass utterly from the Land"-he said it in despair on the slopes of Mt Thunder.
And then the fire lions arrived.
As they did for Covenant.
And the Skurj now live in Mount Thunder.
Makes you think, eh.
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:38 pm
by drew
Variol Farseer wrote:MrKABC wrote:Did he by chance call you a "groveler" and ask you if you wanted to "bandy falsehoods" with him? I am curious.
Maybe he did. The line quality wasn't very good, and I thought he was asking for Grover, who wanted some candied balsa wood. Clearly your interpretation makes better sense.
Maybe he looked up your number in the White(-gold) Pages
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