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Do any of you actually notice any difference in the use of these forms that the Jedi seem to use? I don't see much of this is the films... though I'll admit, you can tell the way Dooku uses a blade is completely difference from anything we see from Obi-Wan and and other Jedi of the prequels... but little else suggests any evidence that they are using these forms... hmmm...

Also, what do you think of them? Which are your favourite, which one would you like to be master of, if there really were such things as lightsabers?

Darth Revan wrote:Do any of you actually notice any difference in the use of these forms that the Jedi seem to use? I don't see much of this is the films...

There wouldn't be much of it in the films, since all that "forms" stuff is nicked from KOTOR 2, as you should well know. Still, if I were to choose one, it'd be:

Random Star Wars geek site wrote:Form IV is the most acrobatic Form ever developed. Known as Ataru, this was one of the more recent lightsaber combat techniques, developed by the Jedi Knights during the last centuries of the Old Republic. In this Form the Jedi uses all of the ways in which the Force helps them go beyond what is physically possible, heavily emphasizing Jedi abilities to run, jump, and spin in phenomenal ways by using the Force to outmaneuver and overwhelm an opponent from multiple angles. In order to achieve the acrobatic prowess, amazing reflexes and physical punch of this form, a Jedi focuses on the Force, letting it flow deeply throughout their entire physicality, even allowing them to overcome the limitations of old age. This form of lightsaber combat is astonishing to watch, filled with elaborate moves in the center of which a Jedi may be all but a blur. The Form has found a niche among the eager padawan learners of the time, who believed that the Jedi needed to become more involved in rooting out crime and evil and eradicating it.

I'd go for Obi-Wan's Form III. Defense, defense, defense!

I have a form(in thoery)I will call it the Danrhyshaynian(in honor of my oldest child)it goes like this:The Danrhyshanian form evolved around the theory of trying to kill or incapacitate your opponent befor said opponent can kill or incapacitate you.It involves a strategy of trying to strike your opponent:#1 first,#2more times and #3 in areas that are likely to disable your opponent i.e.head,neck,sabre arm,leg,groin.On the defensive side of the Danrhyshaynian form the main strategy involves trying not to be hit with the opponents sabre,techniques include:jumping backwards,blocking the opponents sabre with yours,moving around a lot,trying to be unpredictable,and distraction-practitioners of the Danrhyshaynian technique are known to utter such phrases as:"Look there's a Horny Hutt over there,better not bend over", "Your robes come open",and "You better protect your little sabre at all costs"-this last phrase is particularly popular because after several minutes of feighning attack on the opponents privates,the practitioner of this form will let loose a quick and powerful blow towards the opponents neck,often resulting in a briefly suprised then dead opponent.Intimidation,ridicule and insults also play a large role in this form.

Intimidation, ridicule and insults, eh? So you're a dark Jedi, then?

I'd go for Form III as well. I think it would suit my personality well. I'd let my opponent tire himself out and then I'd strike. Of course, if my opponent was also using Form III, then geez...it's like rock, paper and scissors: pick a Form and hope for the best, heh. I can see myself and LF going at each other all day...do we get coffee breaks?

Matrixman wrote:Intimidation, ridicule and insults, eh? So you're a dark Jedi, then?

I'd go for Form III as well. I think it would suit my personality well. I'd let my opponent tire himself out and then I'd strike. Of course, if my opponent was also using Form III, then geez...it's like rock, paper and scissors: pick a Form and hope for the best, heh. I can see myself and LF going at each other all day...do we get coffee breaks?

Lots of cream and two packs of sugar, please! I would wield dual-sabers, by the way. I wonder if that's a good combination with Form III.

Probably not bad, if you're talking about a shorter one in your off hand, (was common in duels in Italy, IIRC, with a long dagger to balance the rapier), but it's not as easy as it may appear. Requires much more training to be effective.

Still, with form III, I imagine it would be quite effective, as your main defence would still rest in one hand w/ a standard length one, allowing the "attack sinister" should you be able to beat your opponents blade out of line, or put him off balance.

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Wonder where Darth Maul fits in all this?

Darth Maul seemed very much like a form II to me, fluid motion and anticipation of the enemy's next strike.

I'd take form V. All the benenefits of form III's invincibilty, but a chance to strike back as well.

Darth Revan wrote:jnana.wikinerds.org/index.php/Lightsaber#Form_I

Do any of you actually notice any difference in the use of these forms that the Jedi seem to use? I don't see much of this is the films... though I'll admit, you can tell the way Dooku uses a blade is completely difference from anything we see from Obi-Wan and and other Jedi of the prequels... but little else suggests any evidence that they are using these forms... hmmm...

Also, what do you think of them? Which are your favourite, which one would you like to be master of, if there really were such things as lightsabers?

This has me wondering just what "form" the Star Wars kid was using.....

By the rictus grin on his face, I reckon VIIa: The deep well of emotions can lead to the release of anger.

As a fencer I'd likely be best suited to type II. I've never even seen a jedi fight like that though, either in the films or the games.

CovenantJr wrote:

Darth Revan wrote:Do any of you actually notice any difference in the use of these forms that the Jedi seem to use? I don't see much of this is the films...

There wouldn't be much of it in the films, since all that "forms" stuff is nicked from KOTOR 2, as you should well know. Still, if I were to choose one, it'd be:

Random Star Wars geek site wrote:Form IV is the most acrobatic Form ever developed. Known as Ataru, this was one of the more recent lightsaber combat techniques, developed by the Jedi Knights during the last centuries of the Old Republic. In this Form the Jedi uses all of the ways in which the Force helps them go beyond what is physically possible, heavily emphasizing Jedi abilities to run, jump, and spin in phenomenal ways by using the Force to outmaneuver and overwhelm an opponent from multiple angles. In order to achieve the acrobatic prowess, amazing reflexes and physical punch of this form, a Jedi focuses on the Force, letting it flow deeply throughout their entire physicality, even allowing them to overcome the limitations of old age. This form of lightsaber combat is astonishing to watch, filled with elaborate moves in the center of which a Jedi may be all but a blur. The Form has found a niche among the eager padawan learners of the time, who believed that the Jedi needed to become more involved in rooting out crime and evil and eradicating it.

No thanks, i could join a circus and spin and jump around as much...

You want one with Style?

The ultimate refinement of lightsaber-to-lightsaber combat became Form II, advancing the precision of blade manipulation to its finest possible degree and producing the greatest dueling masters the galaxy has ever seen. Known as Makashi, this ancient Jedi Knight lightsaber combat technique was developed when pikes and staves were more common in the galaxy. Essentially, lightsaber fencing--thrust, parry, riposte--whereas all the others are some type of swordsmanship, utilizing slashing and cutting. Form II emphasized fluid motion and anticipation of a weapon being swung at its target, allowing the Jedi to attack and defend with minimal effort. In the time near the Clone Wars, the Jedi Order seldom practices this technique. There is, if at all, so little lightsaber-to-lightsaber combat involved in a Jedi's life that Jedi have found it not practical. Even with the resurgence of the Sith, confrontation of an enemy with a lightsaber is an exceedingly rare prospect for a Jedi, so they continue to focus on more practical Forms. Sith expecting to battle lightsaber-wielding Jedi, however, find Form II a powerful technique. It's not as good against ranged weaponry, but nearly unbeatable against another lightsaber.

Pfft! Using the Force to be Superman is clearly the way to go.