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mmm... soy

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:07 pm
by Reisheiruhime
Eh. Soy. Eh, soy diet. Eh, ......

Well, in English, help with the soy! I haven't got a clue as to how to proceed with the whole soy thang, so, er, what's good, what isn't, and what's a total waste of time?

Erm....

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:16 pm
by Worm of Despite
Soy diet? Ha ha!

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:22 pm
by Reisheiruhime
What? Kau'al liked it..... Oh, wait, not Ooman.... I dunno.... Looked fun. 8)

Re: mmm... soy

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:27 pm
by Edge
Turiya Foul wrote:...and what's a total waste of time?
Soy.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:32 pm
by Reisheiruhime
Grr... If I knew where you lived, I'd send my Large and Agressive Predator Dude to cut you into tiny, stir-friable pieces. Oh well.

:roll:

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 10:52 pm
by dennisrwood
stir fry

Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 9:12 pm
by Reisheiruhime
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm................................ stir fry........

Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 9:56 pm
by drew
Soy Burgers (Barbecued with cheese and bacon on it!!)

Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 10:04 pm
by dennisrwood
soy chicken patties make great chicken salad. for a chicken avacado salad.

Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 10:10 pm
by dennisrwood
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 8:22 pm
by Reisheiruhime
I doubt that I want to know what that is. :?

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 5:03 am
by dennisrwood
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 11:45 am
by ur-bane
Soy? Did you say SOY?!?

What does a soy burger actually taste like?
I know I've tried veggie burgers, and I do not like them in the least.

I think I'd rather have dennis turn this into another donkey thread, but....

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 12:52 pm
by drew
Soy burges aren't bad, but they taste kind of....fake.

Veggie burgers, in acctuallity I think are great.
I was just kidding about the bacon and cheese part, but if you fry up some mushrooms and onions with them, and add a bit of Worchestershire sause (the Veggatarian kind)...they're great.

I make my own to, with Tofu Carrots and oats...serve them with vegatarian gravey..they're great too.

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 6:06 pm
by Edge
ur-bane wrote:Soy? Did you say SOY?!?

What does a soy burger actually taste like?
Um... soy. They taste like soy. :twisted:

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 7:15 pm
by ur-bane
Hmmm...that makes sense. How silly of me! :D

But, seriously....if you had to describe the taste of "soy" to somebody who never had it, how would you describe it?
(And I am sure it does not taste like chicken, or llama for that matter.) ;)

Would it be the same as oh, shredding cardboard and putting that on a bun?

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 7:19 pm
by Edge
ur-bane wrote: Would it be the same as oh, shredding cardboard and putting that on a bun?
Ah... you've obviously tasted it, then. :lol:

Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 4:31 am
by dennisrwood
soy burgers need to be grilled or they taste a bit fake. the chicken is rather good, and the most versatile. the sausage ranges in taste, from spot on to rather cardboard. i had a soy salmon that was fantastic and can't find it since! i like the turkey very much. the sausage less so, but that's a hold over from my carnivore days. i love the bacon, if cooked crisp. the meatloaf was a treat, as i missed it much. there is a whole world to choose from nowadays. but nothing beats a tomato and cheese sandwich. hummus is great. tahini is as well. a wide variety to choose from. for lunch i'm having some veggie lomein and veggie fried rice.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:59 am
by ur-bane
So, what then is used to add the flavoring to the soy to make it taste like other things? A multitude of new robust chemicals and animal product derivatives, no doubt.

And, since those things are in the crap I eat now anyway, I'll stick to the tried and true garbage I have been putting on my plate for years. ;)

BTW---tomato and cheese sandwiches are GREAT! Especially with lots of fattening mayo and pepper, on rye bread of course, since that is my favorite bread. :D

Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:20 pm
by Menolly
:::sigh:::

Various forms of soy can be great.

I use tofu (made from soy) for stir fry, desserts, shakes, etc. Tofu takes on the flavor of just about anything you put with it.

Soy milk (I prefer vanilla flavored) can be a terrific cows milk altrnative for those with allergies to dairy, or those who choose to eschew dairy.

I think tvp is made from soy. I use it in place of chicken in a terrific Chicken Cheese Lasagna recipe when I am cooking in the kitchen at shul, since it is only certified kosher for fish and dairy dishes. That is, if I don't want to spend the money to buy chicken flavored Quorn instead.

Here is a favorite entree made with tofu that isn't sitr fried:

Grilled Tofu Satay

2 lbs. of extra firm organic tofu

For marinade:
1/4 cup sesame oil
1 cup soy sauce
1/2 cup orange juice
1/4 cup brown sugar
4 cloves garlic
1-1/2 TBS curry powder

Peanut Sauce:
1 onion
2 cloves garlic
1-1/2 TBS olive oil
1 TBS chili flakes, or to taste
1 TBS ground coriander
1/3 TBS ground cumin powder
1 cup smooth peanut butter
1 14 oz. can coconut milk
3 TBS brown sugar
2 TBS lemon juice
2 TBS soy sauce

Combine all of the marinade ingredients in a bowl and stir. Separate the tofu into four pieces and marinate for at least one hour or overnight. In the meantime, make the peanut sauce: Dice the onions and chop the garlic. Heat the olive oil in a pan and saute onion, garlic and chile flakes until tender. Add coriander, cumin and cook for 5 minutes longer. Stir in peanut butter and coconut milk and heat through. Add brown sugar, lemon juice and soy sauce and stir until sugar dissolves. Mix well. Refrigerate until ready to use.

Prepare a medium-hot fire on the grill, or pre-heat a gas grill. Take the tofu pieces out of the marinade and place on direct heat of the grill, about five minutes per side. Turn the tofu pieces a few times to mark them, making sure you are heating through the tofu.

Warm the peanut sauce in a microwave oven, or heat on top of the stove on low heat, stirring for a few minutes. Arrange tofu pieces on a plate and serve with the peanut sauce poured over it, or in a ramekin dish at the side.

Serves 4 as an entree