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The Most Powerful Force Users

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:43 am
by Revan
Midichlorian Count List for the major Star Wars characters

Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader = 27,700
Darth Sidious/Palpatine (with Kyber Crystal) = 20,500
Yoda = 17,700
Luke Skywalker = 14,500
Leia Organa Solo = 14,500
Aenon Jurtis (Most powerful Jedi Master prior to Yoda) = 14,200
Shintor Beerus (ancient Jedi Master) = 13,900
Darth Revan = 13,800 (Knights of the Old Republic video game)
Ce Ce Denowai (the most powerful female Jedi) = 13,700
Ben (Jhon) Skywalker = 13,700
Anakin Solo (New Jedi Order novels) = 13,700
Darth Plagueis (Darth Sidious' master) = 13,600
Count Dooku/Tyranus = 13,500
Obi-Wan Kenobi = 13,400
Kaja Sinis (the first Jedi) = 13,250
Kyle Katarn = 12,200
Mace Windu = 12,000
Darth Maul = 12,000
General Grievous (New Episode 3 Villain) = 11,900
Kit Fisto = 11,800
Exar Kun (Dark Lord of the Sith during the Sith War) = 11,700
Shindor = 11,500 (Dark Jedi from Episode 7)
Yaddle = 11,300
Xanatos' (Qui-Gon Jinn's former apprentice) = 11,300
Darth Seer (Founder of the modern Sith Order) = 11,200
Plo Koon = 11,100
Mara Jade = 11,000
Darth Malak (Knights of the Old Republic video game) = 10,800
Jedi Master Corran Horn (from the New Jedi Order series of Star Wars novels) = 10,700
Ki Adi Mundu = 10,600
Darth Bane = 10,500
Nebar Foxis (Jedi Knight played by SuperShadow in Episode 3) = 10,400
Joruus C'baoth = 10,350
Darth Imperius = 10,300
Shaak Ti = 10,300
Tahari Vehlia (New Jedi Order novels) = 10,300
Echuu-Shen Jon = 10,200
Jedi Master Kam Solusar (New Jedi Order novels) = 10,100
Aalya Secura = 10,000
Qui-Gon Jinn = 10,000
Average Jedi = 10,000
Assajj Ventress = 9,600
Naga Sadow (Dark Lord of the Sith that fled to Yavin 4)= 9,400
Jedi Master Adeus Hust = 9,300
Jacen Solo (New Jedi Order novels) = 9,000
Jaina Solo (New Jedi Order novels) = 9,000
Jedi Master Cihgal (New Jedi Order novels) = 9,000
Darth Rage (Sidious' apprentice after Darth Maul) = 9,000
Jedi Master Tionne Solusar (New Jedi Order novels) = 8,500
Dezar Looger (Dagobah Dark Jedi) = 8,400
Xio Jade = 7,400
Chewbacca = 7,200
Tylus Liv = 7,100
Aurra Sing = 7,000
Need To be Considered for Training as a Jedi = 7,000
Padme Amidala = 4,700
Danni Quee (New Jedi Order Jedi Scientist)= 4,500
Beru Lars = 3,700
Shmi = 3,300
Lando Calrissian = 3,300
Boba Fett= 1,500
Han Solo = 1,500
Jango Fett = 1,500
Owen Lars = 1,500

Most people have such a low Midichlorian Count that they are completely usable to use the Force, or as much as. Anakin is the most powerful force user. Easily. Luke is just a bug in comparison to his father.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:45 am
by Loredoctor
danlo = 10,000
skyweir = 9,000
Darth Revan = 12,000
dAN = -10,000

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:50 am
by Revan
but in truth, Lucas says himself that Midichlorians are just one tiny factor that determines how powerful you can become in the Force. For example, Palpatine is more powerful than Anakin could ever be. But in terms of sheer potential, if both were to reach and fulfill every facade of their strength, Anakin could eat Palpatine for breakfast.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:53 am
by Loredoctor
Yes, one has strength, but does one know how to fully use it?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:44 pm
by CovenantJr
Where did you get all those, Darth? Or did you make them up?


In any case, I have a couple of comments.

1) I always took Luke to be more innately powerful than Vader - after all, Palpatine tries to get Luke to kill Vader, thereby gaining a replacement apprentice. Why would he do that if Luke's a big wuss in terms of raw power?

2) Darth Revan is top of the list ;) I think Revan would kick Anakin/Vader's bum, with some considerable force 8)

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:19 pm
by dlbpharmd
Darth Rage (Sidious' apprentice after Darth Maul) = 9,000
Where did this guy come from?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:28 pm
by Cail
Darth Rage was actually just Darth Peeved until he went all the way over to the Dark Side.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:20 pm
by Warmark Jay
Darth Rage was actually just Darth Peeved until he went all the way over to the Dark Side.
Before he Fell, Darth Maul was known as Darth Zerbert.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:23 pm
by Lord Mhoram
Joruus C'baoth = 10,350
He should be higher up. He was highly valued by the Emperor and Grand Admiral Thrawn.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:59 am
by Fist and Faith
I agree with CJ's 1).

Hard to say if I agree with you, Mhoram. He completely dominated the potentially-hugely-powerful Luke, but possibly more because Luke's a lame-ass loser. Maybe he's also so tough because he has no compunctions at all.


And Grievous had NO ability to use the Force! duh

Mara Jade is way off. Above Jedi Masters? Not! She obviously has some ability, and she could have been more of a Force-user if Palpatine had trained her. But I never saw evidence of the ranking she got. I'd say she's more like Jango in Ep II - hugely intelligent and skilled.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:32 am
by matrixman
Fascinating list, Darth. Does the even split in Midichlorian count between Luke and Leia imply that if Padme had given birth to only one child, that child would have had an even greater Force potential than Anakin?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:48 am
by Nathan
it seems to me that no amount of force potential can make up for training and practise. Potential is a stupid way to measure power because nothing ever reaches its full potential.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:49 am
by Avatar
CovenantJr wrote:Where did you get all those, Darth?
--A

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:37 pm
by Rincewind
but then, remember the old charechtors, the origional sith lords from KOTOR (Naga Sadow, etc.) were said to be 10x more powerful than revan or the exile

also, you forgot Darth Traya, ill bet she has twice the midichlorian count of Anakin

Kreia owns

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:20 pm
by duchess of malfi
Luke Skywalker = 14,500
Leia Organa Solo = 14,500
Since they are not identical twins, why would they have exactly the same amount? :?

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:53 pm
by Nathan
it's rounded to the nearest 100.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:41 pm
by Lord Mhoram
Fist,
Hard to say if I agree with you, Mhoram. He completely dominated the potentially-hugely-powerful Luke, but possibly more because Luke's a lame-ass loser. Maybe he's also so tough because he has no compunctions at all.
8O Luke started the new Jedi order! He wasn't a lame-ass-loser :lol: Still. It's hard to determine him, since when we saw him with Grand Admiral Thrawn he was completely insane.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:57 am
by Sunbaneglasses
I have seen this on Supershadow.com

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:12 am
by Revan
CovenantJr wrote:Where did you get all those, Darth? Or did you make them up?


In any case, I have a couple of comments.

1) I always took Luke to be more innately powerful than Vader - after all, Palpatine tries to get Luke to kill Vader, thereby gaining a replacement apprentice. Why would he do that if Luke's a big wuss in terms of raw power?

2) Darth Revan is top of the list ;) I think Revan would kick Anakin/Vader's bum, with some considerable force 8)
You're right, Revan rules, he should be accounted as a god really...
Rincewind wrote:but then, remember the old charechtors, the origional sith lords from KOTOR (Naga Sadow, etc.) were said to be 10x more powerful than revan or the exile

also, you forgot Darth Traya, ill bet she has twice the midichlorian count of Anakin

Kreia owns
You are indeed right, Kreia does indeed own everyone. But I don't think that Kreia's strength lies in the Force, oh, she's strong. But her wisdom is stronger I think... Despite being a Sith, perhaps because she is a Sith, she has an amazing view point on events. That's why she's the best Sith ever; her knowledge. And you notice what types of students she tries to train? Revan - headstrong, foresighted (literally, that is why he went to the Dark Side and tried to take over, or unite the galaxy, because he knew an even greater enemy would come) very intelligent. Would she have bothered to train Malak, had he come to her? No, I don't think so, Malak was for all intensive purposes, a moron, and had he beat the Jedi and made his own empire, it would have fallen within months, as a character in kotor 2 said.

I thing Revan owns everyone... including Palpatine. :P

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:07 pm
by dlbpharmd
Where does all of this background story come from?