At what point would you get fed up with Covenant?
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:14 pm
What action did Covenant take that, assuming you were a character, you would have decided it was time to put the Unbeliever in his place?
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At what point would you get fed up with Covenant?
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thats easy...
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:52 pm
...The rape of Lena was surely enuf for him to be thrown in the hoosegow,,but..this isn't a land of jails and police ...As the author intended,,Thomas was stained darkly rite from the begining. The act finally did get to Lena's father and he melted down. Forget the excuses, the question is from a character's viewpoint..On that point, I doubt I could be a character of the land. ...It is a fantasy and its Thomas'es fantasy. ...MEL
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:56 pm
I could not have coped with Covenant's rape of Lena. I, certainly, have sworn no Oath of Peace.
I would have taken him to Revelstone to deliver the message.
Then, I would have killed him.
And the Land would have died, since only Covenant could save it.
Quite an ethical dilemma. The question is: what is the answer to this dilemma posed to us by Stephen Donaldson?
Atiaran could not find an answer to the dillemma, and it killed her. Is there an answer?
I would have taken him to Revelstone to deliver the message.
Then, I would have killed him.
And the Land would have died, since only Covenant could save it.
Quite an ethical dilemma. The question is: what is the answer to this dilemma posed to us by Stephen Donaldson?
Atiaran could not find an answer to the dillemma, and it killed her. Is there an answer?
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:06 pm
Bannor would have stopped you.Edelaith wrote:I could not have coped with Covenant's rape of Lena. I, certainly, have sworn no Oath of Peace.
I would have taken him to Revelstone to deliver the message.
Then, I would have killed him.
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:36 pm
is you not know?
Edelaith is a super-uber Haruchia master and would kill Bannor awell, (AH! what i just said is sacrlidge of the worst kind.)
Edelaith is a super-uber Haruchia master and would kill Bannor awell, (AH! what i just said is sacrlidge of the worst kind.)
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:09 pm
You guys are missing the whole point of the paradox of the White Gold. Without his unbelief, and sometimes rude and stupid behavior, he could not have done what he did to protect the Arch of Time from Foul. Remember Covenant is the White Gold, so he in himself is a paradox, constantly contradicting himself and tottering bewteen belief and unbelief.
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:40 pm
Oh, I'm not missing the point. I know it all too well.
So did Atiaran. That is why she allowed Covenant to live. He was the hope of the Land.
IF the above posts are ignored for a second, consider Atiaran's plight.
She wished to punish, to kill, Thomas Covenant. She also wished to protect him, seeing in him the hope of the Land. She could not forgive him for what he had done, but since she could not vent her outrage on him, she ended up venting it on herself ... and it destroyed her. Obviously, not a good answer for Atiaran.
So, what is a good answer for Atiaran? What should she have done?
So did Atiaran. That is why she allowed Covenant to live. He was the hope of the Land.
IF the above posts are ignored for a second, consider Atiaran's plight.
She wished to punish, to kill, Thomas Covenant. She also wished to protect him, seeing in him the hope of the Land. She could not forgive him for what he had done, but since she could not vent her outrage on him, she ended up venting it on herself ... and it destroyed her. Obviously, not a good answer for Atiaran.
So, what is a good answer for Atiaran? What should she have done?