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Writing help
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:10 pm
by High Lord Tolkien
I hope this is the correct place to ask!
There is this story that I've been writing for a number of years, every few months I write like crazy then stop cold for many more months, I'm trying to describe a scene where over 100 people all draw their swords at the same time.
It's a powerful scene of unexpected support.
What has been driving me crazy is how do I describe the sound?
Where do I even go to find out what the spelling would be to convey that sound?
Or is just explaining what is happening enough?
What do you all think?
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:13 pm
by CovenantJr
My approach would be to describe it in terms of the emotional impact it would have on an observer or someone involved. But then that's the way I describe everything

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:28 pm
by aTOMiC
I'm pretty sure the sound is much like a very loud "Shink!" hehe.
Seriously I would probably color the moment with some appropriate adjective laden description. "..as if through an accord forged of sudden granite, the entire host responded with one action one purpose one..." yadda yadda yadda and so on. In other words forget about the sound and focus on the meaning.
Or just say.."With a deafening SHINK a hundred swords were drawn from a hundred scabbards and thrust into the air which suddenly popped a hundred low hanging baloons."
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:29 pm
by sgt.null
i agree that the visual will trump the audio...
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:56 pm
by wayfriend
They could never be drawn exactly in unison. Unless your going for a campy style. So SHINK is right out.
It would be loud.
It would be like a hundred arrows striking a target, or like a hundred hammers striking an anvil, or like a hundred gauntlets striking a mailed breast, like a hundred voices crying "hail!". Loud from numbers. In unison, but not exactly simultaneous.
If a drawn sword rings, then many drawn swords would ring in harmony, or disharmoniously.
It would sound like thunder. It would sound like the roar of a cataract loosed for one moment.
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:41 pm
by Fist and Faith
I'm reminded of a scene in Gates of Fire. Before a battle early in the book, the Spartans' opponents were all yelling and beating their shields. Basically, working up their courage. The Spartans, otoh, stood quietly. Though the enemy had half again as many people, both sides knew who was going to win.
You're talking about a different situation, but I think silence could work just as well:
There was no signal given; no word spoken. Yet with not the slightest hesitation, with absolute calm - and absolute conviction - the hundred drew their swords. The only sound heard was the quiet whisper of a hundred swords leaving their scabbards. High Lord Tolkien's eyes filled with tears of gratitude.
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:50 pm
by High Lord Tolkien
Holy crap!
Thank you all.
Lots of good ideas and things to think about.
Fist, now I have to worry about copyright after reading what you wrote.
It instantly ingrained itself in my memory.
But like most things it will fade fast.
Thanks again, you all gave me enough to get the "fires" burning again.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:27 am
by Khaliban
The blades appeared like a slam of applause, volume by population, the shout of a lynch-mob of swords.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:03 pm
by CovenantJr
Interestingly put.
I think the key thing, really, is to do it your own way. If you force it or try to use someone else's voice, it'll turn out worse for it. IMHO, of course.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:14 pm
by Warmark
Fist - I liked that.

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:00 am
by Khaliban
CovenantJr wrote:I think the key thing, really, is to do it your own way. If you force it or try to use someone else's voice, it'll turn out worse for it. IMHO, of course.
True enough. I just had an image I needed to get out. The important issue is not the onomatapoeia but the emotional context of the scene.
For example;
The swords crept out with a frightened murmur.
The room was filled with the rich tenor of a hundred swords crying, "Hail!" in unison.
From behind him came the heavy grunt of a hundred men yanking out their weapons.
...like the forced laughs of a billion art house movie patrons. (Futurama reference)
The commander cried out in anger. In response, a hundred swords clattered from their scabbards in unison;, because, it was hot in the tent and the soldier's hands were sweaty and they all dropped the swords at once, except for one guy near the front who tried to grab his but missed and wound up stabbing himself in the foot. He screamed in pain and hobbled around and hit the enemy commander who fell into the fire pit. The commander jumped up yelling, his clothes on fire, and ran from the tent, flailing his arms and scattering his men, until he hit a wagon loaded with black powder exploding it and himself. Not the message the soldiers wanted to send, but the enemy certainly took notice.
And so on. A strong simile or metaphor would serve best.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:25 am
by Avatar
--A
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:10 am
by sgt.null
"a hundred swords cried like a klansman screaming about reverse racism..."
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:06 pm
by CovenantJr
Khaliban wrote:True enough. I just had an image I needed to get out. The important issue is not the onomatapoeia but the emotional context of the scene.
Exactly. Eloquently phrased.
Khaliban wrote:The commander cried out in anger. In response, a hundred swords clattered from their scabbards in unison;, because, it was hot in the tent and the soldier's hands were sweaty and they all dropped the swords at once, except for one guy near the front who tried to grab his but missed and wound up stabbing himself in the foot. He screamed in pain and hobbled around and hit the enemy commander who fell into the fire pit. The commander jumped up yelling, his clothes on fire, and ran from the tent, flailing his arms and scattering his men, until he hit a wagon loaded with black powder exploding it and himself. Not the message the soldiers wanted to send, but the enemy certainly took notice.[/i]

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:28 am
by Fist and Faith
Well, thanks to Warmark and HLT. At least
some people know a good thing when they see it!

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:48 am
by Dragonlily
Fist and Faith wrote:There was no signal given; no word spoken. Yet with not the slightest hesitation, with absolute calm - and absolute conviction - the hundred drew their swords. The only sound heard was the quiet whisper of a hundred swords leaving their scabbards. High Lord Tolkien's eyes filled with tears of gratitude.
Wow, Fist!

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:32 pm
by Zarathustra
There was no signal given; no word spoken. Yet with not the slightest hesitation, with absolute calm - and absolute conviction - the hundred drew their swords. The only sound heard was the quiet whisper of a hundred swords leaving their scabbards. High Lord Tolkien's eyes filled with tears of gratitude.
Damn, Fist, that was
good. I'm stunned. I should have been reading this forum much sooner (and should stop wasting my time in the political forum). How long did you work on that? I love that, without any complex imagery or words you have to look up in the dictionary, you've crafted a scene that gives me goosebumps. I'm serious, that was powerful.
I think you are right on about ignoring the sound, and focusing on the emotinal impact. Very "Donaldsonian" of you.
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:24 pm
by Fist and Faith
Thanks, you two!

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:57 pm
by Prebe
Khaliban wrote:From behind him came the heavy grunt of a hundred men yanking out their weapons.
This could have been the story of a new convict taking his first shower

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:24 pm
by sgt.null
yes, yes it could have been.