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Why is it Ice and Fire?
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:21 am
by Khaliban
Specifically, why Ice before Fire? That's not how you normally say that. It's easy to answer once and let it go. It gets messy, and interesting, if you start adding on more answers.
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:54 am
by Lord Mhoram
Khaliban,
Specifically, why Ice before Fire? That's not how you normally say that.
Not sure what you mean here.
Do you think that there is significance in the title of the series?
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:45 am
by danlo
Others vs Dragons?

(Winter
is coming, afterall...)
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:23 am
by I'm Murrin
To me, "A Song of Ice and Fire" sounds better than "A Song of Fire and Ice".
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:47 pm
by Lord Mhoram
danlo,
I agree. It's probably something like that.
Murrin,
Yes, but part of that might be because we are so used to hearing it "A Song of Ice and Fire."
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:55 pm
by I'm Murrin
IMO, I think it's more to do with having "of F-" (breaks the flow by the tiniest amount) and ending on a "-ce" sound.
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:51 pm
by Zahir
Yeah. Sounds better. 'Nuff said.
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:01 am
by Khaliban
Lord Mhoram wrote:Khaliban,
Specifically, why Ice before Fire? That's not how you normally say that.
Not sure what you mean here.
Do you think that there is significance in the title of the series?
There might be. GRRM doesn't do a lot of things randomly. I tend to doubt the name of the series was chosen haphazardly.
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:05 pm
by Encryptic
Zahir wrote:Yeah. Sounds better. 'Nuff said.
Re: Why is it Ice and Fire?
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:26 pm
by Warmark
Khaliban wrote:Specifically, why Ice before Fire? That's not how you normally say that. It's easy to answer once and let it go. It gets messy, and interesting, if you start adding on more answers.
ACOK Spoilers.
In the House of the Undiying they tell of this Song, not sure what it means yet.
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:12 pm
by OsRavan
theres a number of theories and it can certainyl refer to many things. imo most likely it is cause the two main themes of the series focus on ice (others) and fire (dany, dragons, and who rules westeros)
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:22 pm
by theDespiser
well, there WAS a movie called Fire and Ice in the mid 80s...maybe it the order was changed so as to not confuse people or to infringe on the title...