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Beware of Sony CDs
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:51 pm
by [Syl]
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:22 pm
by High Lord Tolkien

SONY
Awesome link Syl!
I had read about this a few days ago.
This link you posted wrapped the whole thing up pretty well.
This one:
www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony- ... ights.html
went into so much detail my brain shutdown.
But it's informative.
Everyone should scroll down to the bottom to read veiwers responses too.
Looks like the problems are vast.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:22 pm
by matrixman
Crazy. I didn't understand everything the article said, but I think I got the gist of it. Sony marches to its own beat on many matters and likes to establish rules for everyone else to follow--the kind of arrogance befitting a giant global corporation. I never liked the idea of copy-protected CDs from day one.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:22 pm
by Usivius
I'm confused.
I am very compute naive, so can someone tell me what is going on? By using these CDs, is my computer getting tagged? or coookied? or whatever?...
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:25 pm
by High Lord Tolkien
Usivius wrote:I'm confused.
I am very compute naive, so can someone tell me what is going on? By using these CDs, is my computer getting tagged? or coookied? or whatever?...
My take on it is that the Sony CD installs a hidden program for it's own purposes.
By itself it's not harmful.
But it's very existance leaves your PC open to virus' that already exist for this program.
But it's so well hidden that your antivirus program is blind to helping you.
And removing it damages your PC or makes it so you can't use that particular music CD.
And it was only discovered by some amazingly good detective work by some system admins.
So it wasn't like Sony was going to release any patches to fix the program.
The whole things messed up.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:33 pm
by Nathan
It must be said, though, that sony did not design the software, they bought it from another company, obviously it's their fault for including such software on their CDs, but they did not themselves design it.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:17 pm
by I'm Murrin
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:32 pm
by matrixman
Good to see folks taking legal action against Sony.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:32 pm
by sgt.null
i hope Sony gets tagged with enough cash dqamages that other companies are reluctant to pull such crap.
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:21 am
by matrixman
Well, just earlier in the day I was browsing a store and came across a new CD release I wanted to get...but it was precisely on the Sony/BMG label that we've been talking about here. I decided not to buy the CD. I think I'll boycott all Sony/BMG CDs for the time being.
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:31 am
by sgt.null
these morons can't see past their noses. i burn mix cds for many people. in hopes they will like any given artist and rush out to buy their cd's. how many extra sales have i made for the companies?
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:47 am
by I'm Murrin
My Kasabian CD was BMG, from last year (before they started putting this new program on) - It also installed its own media player when you put it in the computer, and if you tried to play it on anything else you got the first song broken into ten-second chunks instead of the actual tracks. In the end I just downloaded the songs from somewhere else.
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:44 pm
by Nerdanel
Everyone on Windows should disable the autorun in their preferences, or at least press the shift key when putting in a CD to avoid installing nasty stuff.
Me, I'm using Linux on which that sort of copyprotection is entirely in vain, and boycotting any copyprotected CD anyways. I used to buy a lot of music but nowadays I don't want to give my money to any major record company for several reasons. They don't deserve it.
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:02 pm
by sgt.null
thanks for the tips, i have a burned cd that runs its own player.
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:26 pm
by The Somberlain
How do you permanently disable autoplay? I usually hold Shift if the CD states that it has copy protection, but I can't see how to make it so that no CDs will ever autorun software.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:00 am
by sgt.null
bump. i'd like to know this as well. i may have lost some writing because of a virus that may have come from some software.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:28 pm
by Nerdanel
This seems to be a good explanation for various Windows OSes
I googled for it.
Honestly, I must say I was surprised (even though I shouldn't have been after having configured a static IP address in Windows 98 ). And they say Linux is hard to use...
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:57 pm
by sgt.null
thank you
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:15 pm
by I'm Murrin
cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/
Found this today. They're exchanging CDs for ones without protection, and free MP3 versions of the tracks.
They've ceased production of CDs containing the software.
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:14 am
by sgt.null
good for consumers, protests can still work.