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Find this quote?

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:13 pm
by I'm Murrin
I'm trying to find a quote, don't have the books with me and can't remember the exact wording...

It's in the first trilogy - Covenant is talking to someone, Foamfollower perhaps, and asks something along the lines of 'why not just kill yourself?'
I'm really stuck trying to work out what the quote is, and where.

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:17 pm
by ur-bane
I don't have my books with me, they're packed away, but IIRC, that conversation took place between Covenant and Foamfollower in LFB during the trip to Revelstone on the Soulsease.

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:29 pm
by Fist and Faith
The beggar asked Covenant, "Why not destroy yourself?"

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:12 pm
by I'm Murrin
That might be it, but I've still got this picture in my head of a similar exchange somewhere else in the first two books...

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:59 pm
by Fist and Faith
He and Foamfollower definitely talk about death a lot. Covenant telling of the guy who slit his wrists on the plane; Covenant having a nightmare after he drinks some diamondraught; later when the quest for the SoL begins...
"But the power over death is a delusion. There cannot be life without death." -Saltheart Foamfollower

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:26 pm
by Furls Fire
Here's one from LFB, when Covenant first goes to the Leprosarium:
Then the patient moved his lips to speak, and Covenant looked up at his face. His dull, cataractal eyes sat in his face as if they were the center of an eruption. The skin of his cheeks was as white-pink as an albino's; it bulged and poured away from his eyes in waves, runnulets, as if it had been heated to the melting point; and these waves were edged with thick tubercular nodules.

"Kill yourself," he rasped terribly. "Better than this."

Covenant broke away from the doctor. He rushed out into the hall and the contents of his stomach spattered over the clean walls and floor like a stain of outrage.

In that way, he decided to survive.
And on the boat with Foamfollower:
He gaped wide -- eyed at his own narration. He would have been willing, eager, to weep for the man if he had been able to do so without sacrificing his own defenses. But he could not weep. Instead, he swallowed thickly, and let his momentum carry him on again.

"And I'll tell you something else about culture shock. Every world has its own ways of committing suicide, and it is a lot easier to kill yourself using methods that you're not accustomed to. I could never slit my wrists. I've read too much about it -- talked about it too much. It's too vivid. I would throw up. But I could go to that man's world and sip belladonna tea without nausea. Because I don't know enough about it. There's something vague about it, something obscure -- something not quite fatal.
When they reach Revelstone:
That smile touched Covenant's heart like a clasp of affection. Thickly, he replied, "Next time take it easier. I can't stand -- watching -- Do you always keep promises -- this way?"

"Your messages are urgent. How could I do otherwise?"

From his leper's perspective, Covenant countered, "Nothing's that urgent. What good does anything do you if you kill yourself in the process?"

For a moment, Foamfollower did not respond. He braced a heavy hand on Covenant's shoulder, and heaved himself, tottering, to his feet. Then he said as if he were answering Covenant's question, "Come. We must see Revelstone."
and of course, as Fisty said, the beggar says to him "Why not destroy yourself?"

:D

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:46 pm
by I'm Murrin
Okay, I'm fairly sure I must have been thinking of the beggar now, but they're all good moments.

There's also a scene in the Rock Gardens of the Maerl that I can't quite remember.

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:58 pm
by Fist and Faith
Thanks, Furls. :D I loaned LFB to my gf, so I couldn't look anything up.

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:03 pm
by Furls Fire
After Covenant tells the story about the woman in the leprosarium:
Troy took a deep breath, trying to shake off the effect of Covenant's tale, but he could think of nothing to say. When he looked over at Elena, he saw that she was melding with Mhoram and Amatin as if she needed their support to bear what she had heard. After a moment, Mhoram said aloud, "Ur-Lord Covenant is a prophet."

"Does he foretell the fate of the Land?" Amatin asked painfully.

"No!" Elena's denial was fierce, and Mhoram breathed also, "No" But Troy could hear that Mhoram meant something different.
I always thought this one passage to be very profound and...ummm...for lack of a better word...Prophetic. :D

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:05 pm
by Furls Fire
Fist and Faith wrote:Thanks, Furls. :D I loaned LFB to my gf, so I couldn't look anything up.
OH COOL...your getting Christy into the Chrons :D :D Get her to join the Watch too. Would LOVE to "meet" her. :D :D

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:27 pm
by Fist and Faith
I'm on her computer at the moment. When I got here this afternoon, she immediately started in about the difference between ethics and philosophy, because she had read the beggar's note. :D