Twelve Monkeys
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:26 pm
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:38 pm
one of my all time favorites!!! bruce and brad both brilliant!!! terry gilliam brilliant! i own it.
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:41 pm
I agree i thought Brad Pitt was excellent as the 1990 'version' of him in the mental instatution.
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:02 pm
Saw it a few years back. Loved it. I just rented it today to watch sometime this week. I was thinking about the whole time travel thing in Runes and suddenly I had a desire to see a good time travel flick. Twelve Monkey's came to mind!
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:28 pm
Wonderful movie. Gilliam in top form there. And what a great performance from Willis and Stowe! Wow, great scene in the hotel room when he comes back and says that he wants to be cured at the same time she starts to beleive him. (cue: lump in throat)
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:49 pm
Great film! I saw it right after Se7en; that's when I started taking Brad Pitt seriously.
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:33 pm
exACTly Cail!!! me too! of course he was cute but could he actually ACT?
i think 12Monkeys proved he could.
i think 12Monkeys proved he could.
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:50 pm
i think i shall rent all the Terry Gilliam again. 12 Monkeys was great, and the visuals of post-NYC were great.
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:13 pm
Gilliam's uneven. I liked Brazil, Time Bandits, 12 Monkeys, and The Fisher King, but Brothers Grimm stunk, Fear & Loathing was so-so, and Baron Munchausen dragged.
But when he's on......
But when he's on......
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:50 am
I live outside Philadelphia and much of the movie was shot on site. Pretty cool to see how a city you're very familiar with is trasformed into a devastated wasteland.
Side note----the funky little motel with the camels on it where Cole and Railley stay on their way to Phila was called the Oasis. It was one of several seedy motels and strip joints in murder capitol USA (camden nj) on the Admiral Wilson Blvd (I'm sure he's turning in his grave.) Every one of those places were thankfully torn down ( with the exception of one which was turned into a ministry/church) just in time for the Republican Natl Convention a few years back. Almost convinced me to vote for Bush!
Side note----the funky little motel with the camels on it where Cole and Railley stay on their way to Phila was called the Oasis. It was one of several seedy motels and strip joints in murder capitol USA (camden nj) on the Admiral Wilson Blvd (I'm sure he's turning in his grave.) Every one of those places were thankfully torn down ( with the exception of one which was turned into a ministry/church) just in time for the Republican Natl Convention a few years back. Almost convinced me to vote for Bush!
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:07 am
I must be the only one here who didn't "get" 12 Monkeys. Then the ending was explained to me, and I felt like a moron.
I'm the kind who'll never win at Clue.
I'm the kind who'll never win at Clue.
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:59 am
cail: I liked Munchasen, haven't seen Grimm or Loathing. would have liked to see his Quixote, but not sure that will ever happen. I have liked the others, Brazil being the favorite.
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:06 pm
Agreed that Fear & Loathing is not my favourite, nor do I think it is very good. Grimm has potential, but, again, you can see where he was having problems in the background (studio issues), so the film seems a little like an uncompleted jugsaw puzzle with some peices jammed in to the wrong places.
Baron Munchausen, on the other hand, is great! Wonderful escapism, and some jarring, black jokes. There is one spot where it drags a little, but on the whole I loved it!
My Top 5 Gilliam:
1. Brazil
2. Fisher King
3. Twelve Monkeys
4. Adventures of Baron Munchausen
5. Time Bandits
(I did not put 'M.P. & the Search for the Holy Grail' because that is in a class all by itself!)
Baron Munchausen, on the other hand, is great! Wonderful escapism, and some jarring, black jokes. There is one spot where it drags a little, but on the whole I loved it!
My Top 5 Gilliam:
1. Brazil
2. Fisher King
3. Twelve Monkeys
4. Adventures of Baron Munchausen
5. Time Bandits
(I did not put 'M.P. & the Search for the Holy Grail' because that is in a class all by itself!)
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:19 pm
did Gilliam direct Holy Grail?
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:17 pm
yah, Co-Directed with the other Terry (Jones)
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:04 am
thanks, he also did Jabberwocky.
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:48 pm
'tis true, but I didn't put it in my top 5, only because I felt that one was very inconsistant. There were some absolutely hilarious moments (the hide-and-seek competition between the knights), but many 'dragging' parts.
I swore to my wife that if we ever won a big lottery, that I would keep 2 million and give the rest to Gilliam to re-do/complete his Don Quixote... I would ask only for a small role in the movie...
I swore to my wife that if we ever won a big lottery, that I would keep 2 million and give the rest to Gilliam to re-do/complete his Don Quixote... I would ask only for a small role in the movie...
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:50 pm
well Jabberwocky was early on, so I can excuse the inconsistant nature. and sorry to say, 2 million won't make a Gilliam film. maybe a rock video?
maybe a rock video?Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:15 pm
no, i would keep 2 million and give the rest to Gillilam. This came on the heels of the biggest lottery pot in Canada: 56 million -- nothing compared to the half a billion SUPERBALL pot down there, but I figured 54 million would be a good start for Gilliam...
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:54 pm
yes, for the first twenty minutes of film!