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In the Mouth of Madness
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:58 pm
by Cail
This is my official mea culpa thread for Danlo. I'd previously referred to this film as a steaming pile of dung. After he continued to sing it's praises, I went and rented it again last night (I hadn't seen it since it's theatrical release).
Whoops, it's actually pretty good.
Firstly, Carpenter used to (and still might) shoot all his films in Cinemascope, which makes for an absolutely gorgeous picture. Big props to whoever did the DVD transfer, because C-scope's lush depth is intact on the widescreen version of the film. It is a beautifully shot film.
Sam Neil is a lot like Peter Weller. A fine actor who does some great work, takes a lot of risks, but also churns out a lot of garbage. He plays John Trent as he should be, a cocky pragmatist who is overwhelmed by what he sees (or thinks he sees).
The story itself is much more layered than I remember, and while I still find the ending somewhat dissatisfying, the film works. If you're looking for a good mindscrew with a couple of good jolts, this film is for you. If you're expecting standard fare horror, forget it, you'll be disappointed.
So anyway, a thousand pardons Danlo. I can honestly say that the $4.50 and 90 minutes I spent on the film last night was well worth it.
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:28 pm
by Usivius
I would have to give it a thumbs down. Carpenter is the master at beginning a film. He can create such atmosphere, suspence and tension, and then by half way through, it turns to uuter crap. MOst often that not, in his films, it ends up as some pseudo-zombie flick. Take 'Price of Darkness' for example. As with MoM, it starts out great! A mystery, some weird things happening, tension, and then, PLOP! it falls apart and we lose everything .. credibility (or at the very least, the suspension of disbelief), tension, acting! and chaos reigns. It's like Carpenter has a great idea, and then loses control of the whole thing and fall back on zombie-types....
Although, I live in TO and the church where part of this movie was filmed is on a lonely stretch of highway (404) going north from Toronto, and everytime I see it, standing all alone on the east fields, it does evoke a certain creepiness...
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:35 pm
by danlo
Well I, obviously, disagree!

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:42 am
by sgt.null
well as a reference for Stephen King and HP Lovecraft I think the film works very well. I really like the covers equaling the state of New Hampshire. while the effects of the b&b keeper and the shambling Lovecraftian monster need to be taken with a grain of salt, the bicycle guy on the road is an outstanding scene.
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:38 am
by Loredoctor
Great movie, shame about the terrible opening music.
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:45 am
by Seareach
I *love* that movie...one of my all-time favorites! Hey Loremaster...nice to see you back!
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:25 pm
by Loredoctor
Seareach wrote:I *love* that movie...one of my all-time favorites! Hey Loremaster...nice to see you back!
*Hugs* It's because of your advice that I am back.
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:24 pm
by Cail
Great to see you back LM! I was thinking about you this weekend, wondering if you'd ever return.
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:48 pm
by sgt.null
has anyone seen the dvd of Mouth? does it have any extras?
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:57 pm
by lucimay
i had much the same reaction as Cail to this film when i first saw it, haven't seen it since, but you've all convinced me to give it a second look just to see if i agree with the assessments. i tend toward Usivius' point of view without having seen it a second time, tho.
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:16 pm
by sgt.null
it's not a bad film. but as b movies go it has some really good moments. and part of it takes place in New Hampshire. how can you go wrong?
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:22 pm
by Loredoctor
sgtnull wrote:has anyone seen the dvd of Mouth? does it have any extras?
I own the dvd. Nothing special, and the commentary is dry & technical.
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:32 pm
by sgt.null
thanks. i was hoping for a tribute/background to Stephen King and or HP Lovecraft.
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:53 pm
by Loredoctor
sgtnull wrote:thanks. i was hoping for a tribute/background to Stephen King and or HP Lovecraft.
Unfortunately, there is no such thing on the dvd.
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:41 pm
by Usivius
okokokok... I'll check it out again. Often times I have a different opinion a second time (especially after a long time viewing). It usually works in the reverse, though: a movie I thought was great on first viewing reveals itself to be ... less than good. Embarrassed myself a couple of times when showing movies to the wife. ("Oh this is an awesome movie."... followed by an hour an a half of awkward silence and sidelong glances...)
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:30 pm
by sgt.null
i have yet to convince my wife that Shakes the Clown is a great movie.
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:29 am
by danlo
yeah...he still owes a great deal of debt to King but I think he gave it up to H. P. with The Thing, wow!

I like The Prince of Darkness too (even tho the ending was kinda lame). I could place ITMOM on the same shelf as Event Horizon and The Serpent and the Rainbow. The Thing above them. Carpenter immortalized himself for me with Dark Star. **Say! What's that in the trash can?
The Ghosts of Mars! 
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