Kevin's Watch

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 5:35 pm Post subject:
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hello all...
from New Hampshire around 1981 i first read SRD, Covenent series. found the 1st book in the office at school. i was called down by accident, my friend George Woods was supposed to get a message. while sitting i thumbed through the novel next to me, asked if i could have it and was told yes. have read both trilogies and Daughter of Regals. my wife just bought me Mordant's Need and Gap, so i will be starting those. married
ten years now, we moved to her native Texas. i am a segeant in the food service for one of the prisons near here. i enjoy Stephen King, Kafka, Alan Lightman, Lovecraft, Robert Howard. and tons of music and comic books. so again, hello everyone!
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:41 pm Post subject: Not a Good Idea...

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As much as I would love to see this series filmed, I just don't think that it can be pulled off. And if it is attempted, the end result cannot be anything but bad, as much to my dismay as possible.

I keep thinking of the film adaptation of Stephen King's 'Apt Pupil'. If you have read the short story, you know and understand why the kid acted like he did. The old man was in his head, plain and simple. In the book you understood the power that the old man had over him, and why he held this power over him, but none of that was portrayed in the film. Everything major that is going on in this series is in TCs head, his guilt, emotions, 'bargains'. None of this is vocalized or verbalized. As for a 'voice over', one movie that comes to mind where this was done about as best as can be (IMO) was 'One Hour Photo', with Robin Williams. If a voice over has ever gotten into a character's mind in a believable way, it was done in that movie.

Ths kid in 'Apt Pupil' just came off looking like a punk with a Nazi fetish. Nothing was covered as in the book, it was extremely toned down. Even the ending when in the book he went down in a hail of bullets on top of the hill was not put in the movie. (There goes the rape scene).

In the film version of TCOTC, Covenant will come off as a pissed off leper who hates the world, and when it is time for the gradual changes to his belief in the Land, it will be too choppy / sudden to be believed.

Anyway...that is just how I feel about this. I would definately see the movie, but it would be hard to imagine it being anything that I would walk out of the theater feeling good about. Just my opinion...

Steve

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I sorta just have to say wow about now.

About once a year for a while now, I'd do a Yukon Cornelius: toss a "Stephen R. Donaldson" into the old Google, look at what came up, mumble "nuthin", and move on.

Last week, there was something. I stumbled into Kevins Watch, of course. Within a short time, I stumbled into The Final Chronicles, and then I stumbled into stephenrdonaldson.com, and then I stumbled into the gradual interview, and Elohimfest ... an awful lot to stumble into in a short period of time; my head hurts.

In a good way.

Don't look for lots of posts from me - I can't always keep up with a board. And also I usually don't post unless I have something meaningful to add to a conversation anyway.

Friendly comments and directions are accepted with good grace.

-- Wayfriend

P.S. It was hard coming up with a username (but I like the one I picked). I'm not one for naming myself after a character. And besides, my name in RL is Kevin - there's a conundrum! But I hope this one has an acceptible flavor.

Hello and greetings! I am glad to have read Runes. I didn't know how much I missed the Land until I was finished and now am hungry for more. . . Good thing 2 or 3 years isn't like Land time!

I noticed this as well. I figure it is SRD's current editor's nitpick, as I do not believe it had occurred in previous books. It actually threw me for a loop when I first encountered it, because I was not expecting it.

I noticed this as well. I figure it is SRD's current editor's nitpick, as I do not believe it had occurred in previous books. It actually threw me for a loop when I first encountered it, because I was not expecting it.

drew wrote:I would deffinatly say its either Triock or an obscure Bannor....the picture is not one scene in general...they never took a horse to Foul's Creche. Around the Creche it's all snow from the perpetual winter...not Hotash Slay. I'd say Bannor (for some reason wearing the attire of a warmark)
just because Tricok is in his seventies-the guy looks like he's in his forties.

Esmer wrote:A small ponderance for a moment perchance?

What would the implications be if the events that transpired in The Land were held to todays modern expectations and culpabilitiy? Would not Thomas Covenant or Linden Avery be held to such civil liability that their stature would diminish "from one heartbeat to the next" from saviors to defendants? Would Thomas Covenants saga have ended shortly after his maddened savaging of Lena? Would not Linden Avery be held responsible for the deaths of those in battle because she was the one who had involved them in its quest? Where are the greiving mothers seeking restitution for their slain or maimed children in a war the mother had never chosen?

I assume to point out the infallable personal responsibility that is assigned each individual and embraced by each as well in The Land, and fantasy in general. That they themselves, alone, are responsible for the choices they make, be it in the face of danger, or of fear, or of confusion.

I would leave the rest to all of you to example and engage?

wow! ive finally found a tc site on the net. & here i thought that only me & my dad new who he was. @ least i no that there r other ppl out there with taste. this place is tres cool.

sum sui generis

variol son

@ least

While I was never as big a fan of the 2nd Chronicles as some here seem to be, I must say I was astonished to see that nobody had mentioned the Tales of Runnik and Tull from the Sarangrave Flat and "...the Fall of Lord Shetra".

That even a newish Bloodguard would fall victim to doubt, and the violent manner in which that was dealt with by senior Haruchai always stuck with me.

Also:

Hile Troy being dragged back feet-first over the parapets of Kevins Watch by the Bloodguard, not even realising that he had attempted the self-destruction Covenant craved upon seeing the sheer size of Fouls army...

Lord Mhoram in every way. Like Fingolfin in Tolkien mythology, but that momentary courage sustained for 47 years beyond all reason. His Victory coming when even he felt that it was pointless. The most magnificent act of valour in any Fantasy I have read.

Elena questioning while looking on the prescient artwork depicting that valour: "Where am I? Why am I not by his side?" (that's not verbatim, obviously)