And I think that idea is just that - an idea. It's not a fact. I've put up numbers showing most people don't stay on welfare, which I said from the start before I gave a personal example to illustrate. I don't think giving someone what they need hurts anyone but that it helps everyone. God, by this...

Actually, I'm quite pleased with both parties obstructing each other. If they had compromised, we would still be pretending to fix health care with, effectively, insurance legislation. We would still be deluding ourselves with the redirective tactic of focusing on "coverage" and "insu...

I don't find Paranoia's arguments compelling at all, if for nothing else than that appeals to legalism (something I noted Cail already approves of), which is vain unless that legalism be founded on a solid philosophy that we agree with. So what is YOUR philosophy, P? What do YOU believe to be the t...

Thanks Cail. Experience says I ought to shut my trap before I screw that all up. So...allow me to ignore experience. Here's a reason why grownups don't impress me much. More to the point, this is the reason why we have to take our children back from these idiots: www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/educati...

Not sure I see the difference in "ridiculed" and "harrassed"; be that as it may, you don't seem to be disagreeing with me as to the effect of deviating significantly from the accepted norm. Now if this is a normal behavior of the child, then that is just something the child will...

pft. "progressive" my ass. :roll: Doublethink is a form of trained, willful intellectual blindness to contradictions in a belief system. Doublethink differs from ordinary hypocrisy in that the "doublethinking" person deliberately had to forget the contradiction between his two o...

rusmeister, one thing I'd like to ask you - and I realize this is off topic, so I may well be out of line... What is virtuous about faith based belief? What is virtuous about a system of belief that would reject every application of unsubstantiated belief except in the context of god? Or do you also...

Personally, I prefer men to be gay than straight. Any elimination of competition for female affections benefits me, strategically. If every man was gay, except me, I would probably be a very bad, bad man.

Just for the sake of argument, I'll even concede there is a societal cost. But that doesn't give anyone the right to manage that cost through a centralized planner.

I really don't think that most here want to know what I think. You didn't finish this sentence. Some of us don't want to know what you think about the merits of same sex marriage as prerequisite to law . We don't care because it's irrelevant. Cail, myself, and perhaps others have repeatedly stated ...

Avatar wrote:If rights vary from state to state, they're not rights, are they?

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Sure they are. What's your thoughts on this? I'm not following you...

The minors are arrested. The parents can be fined and arrested if it is found that they gave consent to the minors or encouraged the activity. If the offense is considered bad enough the kids can be taken away from the parents. ' Well I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I think it's irresponsible par...

But this is not what is being argued. There are posters saying that some flaws in what is an overwhelming body of evidence undermines the majority of peer reviewed, substantiated, validated and audited data that makes up that overwhelming body of evidence. This is clearly not the case and suggestio...

You didn't answer my question. I asked..who gets prosecuted when two 12 year olds have sex? I'm showing you that whether you realize it or not, you are exercising your right to let your child have sex. That's life. In the US, The parents do in some cases. In some the children are arrested and charg...

It is the idea that there is no difference between the sexes (what many now mistakenly call "genders" - a whole thread in itself) that is actually unnatural and inconsistent with human nature. Now long hair may not mean a thing, in and of itself, but the fact that, in general, it has alwa...

Sorry, but this is not an opinion, it's a demonstrable fact, proven time and time again, both ancedotally and in various studies. When one deviates sufficiently from the societal norm, there will be an imposed cost on that person, in the form of ridicule, and sometimes (and in schools, ofttime) phy...

There is enough doubt about the data that it needs auditing. Go to any science forum and just try to share your own theory on something and you will be grilled for verifiable data, as you should be. I would be shocked if anyone could use data with the same inaccuracy issues as this data set, and *no...

Clearly single parenting should be discriminated against.

In any case, I'm not sure this particular issue is about legislating a religion's morality. The issue is whether its harmful to society or not. If it is harmful, then its perfectly reasonable to lawfully discriminate against it. If it doesn't harm society, its not so reasonable. I always assumed it...

Do we really need to see Lucy Lawless in her birthday suit?

I forgot all about this show, though I was excited to check it out. I think I'll dump my expectations before I see this...