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This was a reply I was going to make to Zeph's Someone after me thread, till it was locked while I wrote it. I'd like you to read it anyway, because I was somewhat ashamed by some of the responses I saw there.

Oh, dear. :oops:

I must say I feel a little ashamed of the responses I've read. Let's be honest folks; Zeph can be very inflammatory, he can be a pain on the net. Yet it's these very concepts that make it possible for me to believe him. Let's look at the facts.

a) It is fairly easy to get someone's IP addy. Your basic nickel and dime hacker can use several types of info to trace your identity, especially through your emails. How do I know? About two weeks after signing up at KW, my email was hacked, as well as my girlfriend's. It said something to the effect of "Kevin's Watch has invaded". I recieved some help from a few folks here, and we managed to scare the bugger off. However, from basic email info, someone would have little trouble learning of Zeph's family and "friends" alike.

b) The US is very flexible with privacy rights at this time. Let's suppose for a moment that someone at the Watch has military/government training (not that big of a stretch), and has some vendetta against Zeph (also not a big stretch) In fact this person doesnt actually need to be from the Watch, just someone shadowing Zeph's Internet movements.
This person could easily gain the neccessary info.

c) I think it is possible that Zeph is pulling our leg. However, I have had threats made against my life before, and it is no joking matter!
You begin to look over your shoulder constantly, barely sleep at night and begin to suspect even those people you trust.

d) Dark Reflection is correct. Military trained individuals often use military jargon. Words like recon, hardware, mark etc. will often show up in written conversation. However, many of your average sickos (who also have some hacking abilities) use normal terms and can still represent quite a threat.

A threat on someone's life is deadly serious, and I believe we should treat it as such until proven otherwise. Just because we may not like/trust Zeph, it does not give us the right to judge the veracity of his post. It is at times like these that we need to put animosity aside and give advice which may be of use to him. The very nature of Zeph's posting could easily lead to the kind of problem he is talking about.

Zeph, call both your local police AND the FBI IMMEDIATELY. Local police can and will set up protective surveillance, while the FBI can investigate the matter. Contact all friends and relatives IMMEDIATELY with copies of any emails/messages this person has sent you, even if the authorities tell you not to. These people have the right to know any risk to themselves.

Lastly, please ignore some of the posts here. These people are nice people, but recent events have made them a little flamboyant... er, florid, er, just plain mean. Heck, I almost did the same, till I remembered my own situation not so very long ago. I wish you the best of luck in your crisis, and I hope you take my advice.


Jay locked the thread before I could post this, but I would like to say I'm a bit shocked at the responses I mentioned. I hope if something had happened in my life, no one here would mock my troubles in such a fashion. Just my feelings on the matter.
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Post by hierachy »

I agree baradakas, and was also shocked at some of the replies.
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Post by Worm of Despite »

Zeph posted "I want to eat people" and "Someone is after me" on the same day, with less than an hour between each.

And you're shocked at the replies?

It's a pretty simple case of "boy who cried wolf".
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Slaymaker, you choose the high road, and I respect you for that. Me, I have tried very hard to understand who Zeph is any why he posts what he does, and I believe that he is being fake with us. I no longer wish to play his games. If it can be proven that I am wrong, then I will apologize. Besides, the topic is locked and I can't edit my stuff anyways. :D
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I wish I could apologize for my posts but I can't. I can't for the life of me imagine anyone on the Watch making such threats--maybe on the net but not on the Watch. He has never given anyone here any quarter-so he gets what he deserves. I'm know you guys are being too nice and bending over backwards to accomadate this attention seeking fool. Bless you for it. I hope you are right--but I'll tell you one thing, as someone else in that topic wrote, if something that serious was happening in my life I would be doing nothing but initiating serious action to protect my life, and my loved ones, and wouldn't even dream of having the time to let people know about it on a message board... :?
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Yes, it would seem foolish to me to go on line when you know somebody is trying to kill you, and they found you on line. Why not just wave a huge sign saying "Here I am right now!"? Anyway, I hope for Zeph's sake he is a fake; that way nobody is out to get him.
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Post by CovenantJr »

Lord Foul wrote:Zeph posted "I want to eat people" and "Someone is after me" on the same day, with less than an hour between each.

And you're shocked at the replies?

It's a pretty simple case of "boy who cried wolf".
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I hope for his sake that the punk was kidding.
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Me, I have tried very hard to understand who Zeph is any why he posts what he does, and I believe that he is being fake with us.
I couldn't agree more, I've thought Zeph was fake for a long time.
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Post by CovenantJr »

At first, I was convinced he was a troll, then I thought he was just eccentric. Now I'm torn between troll and genuinely disturbed. Either way, I think he's an attention seeker. Surely it's not coincidence that he stopped posting controversial religious topics the moment they were put in their own forum, and promptly created two brand new controversial topics in Gen Dis.
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Does this mean no more ZepdANephelah.
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Jah willing...
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Hello, I’ve been busy. My friend, we’ll call him Dr. Suess, posted on behalf of me today. He messed up because he couldn’t post on the zeph account, and so he made a test post. I’m sorry about that.



My sister died today. She was killed in a car crash. I don’t think it was an accident like the police are suggesting. I think this was a setup. My sister had a perfect driving record, just like me, so this doesn’t mean any sense. She lives in Pittsburgh and they said it was a snow related accident. She hit a tree doing 80mph. How does one hit a tree doing 80 in a snow storm? Don’t people slow down?????

This is bullshit! I’m sorry, I don’t mean to swear. In fact I’m sorry for everything. I didn’t mean to ostracize myself from the watch, it was the one place I had found friends. The only place I actually seemed to count. I have trouble making friends, I’m abrasive. I apologize. My sister. She. She was pregnant. It was supposed to be a surprise. Both her other kids are out of college. She had divorced and met and married another man. She was 45. Still young in many ways. The baby was killed as well of course. Too fast. It was in the 2nd trimester.

I hate you! I hate you God. Why are you doing this to me? I hate you! Come down from heaven if you’re so big! Why are you bothering with my family if it was only me & my mad posts that made this happen then why allow them to diE? I don’t think this was an accident! I don’t byu it for an instant. I’m driunking heavily and I can’t see the reason. WHY? GOD! WHY? She was 45, just 45. That’s not right! It’s not right to take my sister from me. She didn’t even drink much. I don’t see how she could have killed herself. This is a seto, a stup, a setup and I don’t think she should have ever been involved. WHY GOD!??? I hate you! I AHTE YOU! I HATE YOU! Mystister. My only sitst.r


Baradaks/Slaymaker Prime said that he’d received mails to his personal box & his wife’s personal box stating, "Kevin's Watch has invaded".

Danlo stated that I said, “Yep, I'm arrogant. You should just die. Now be a good little boy & go earn your allowance like I told you to. Get on your knees for your daddy bitch, he might give you a nickle raise."


Now, I know that I haven’t been the nicest guy on the planet, but I didn’t write that. It doesn’t even make sense & most of you know that I like to make sense. This post troubles me because I’m concerned that whoever made the post is the same person that is after me. I’ve said things worse than that too. But I didn’t write that. Where did it come from?













I spoke to the authoritoes finally. I thought it was a joke. A joke. I didn’t think this was real. I jsut thought that it was a scare. A think to frightenme. But it was more. It was real. They spoke of the watch to Barakas. So maybe it isnsomeone here. Mabye some one is a psychopath here and they are killing us. If you are out there and if I did you disrespect and you are trying to kill my family, I beg you, please stop. Take me. I don/t care. I’m ready to go. I’ have been for a long time. I hate this world anyway. Just take me. There’s no reason to kill everyone else I love… please.


I’ve been told not to post but I can’t help it. I have to try to stop this. I’ve purchased a gun. I feel like my time is limited, like I have cancer or somehting and I just wanted to say that I’m sorry. I’m sorry for being a jewk. I’m sorry for being impatient. I’m sorry for everything. I’m sorry to the person I pised of and I want you to please accept my aology. This is ust a bord. Such a board where were just explaining things to each other bout life and our experiences. I didn’t mean it if I disrespected you. It was just my sad, das humor & I am very very sorry. Please. Stop. In God’s name oh please, stop. I will never post here again or anywhere else. I will remain off the net, I won’t even look up the weather, just stop. Please.
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Post by DarkReflection »

Survey says?

DING!

You got it folks...BULLS*IT!


Look, speaking as an actor here, that was one of the worst "despair" ridden inner stuggle conflict monologues that I have ever read. For one, you lost me because you tackled far too many subjects, in that kind of emotional state you dont cover the entire spectrum of conversation, you stick with the passionate subject at hand, ie, the sister. Going from the dead sister to the, damnation of god, to the conspiracy stuff, to....just eww.

You really did the art of creative lying a disservice with the drinking comment man, I liked the way your type degenerated after the heavy drinking commenced, but then, it totally clears up. Hmm....dosent make sense kiddo. And if you had been drinking to the point where it would have effected your typing to that degree, the entry would have started that messed up. For someone of some intelligence, you really lack common sense. Should have thought that one through kiddo.

Oh..and there was no report of a car accident involving any woman pregnant or otherwise, today or yesterday in Pittsburgh. There was also a startling lack of a snow storm.


Now really, this is just too much. You need to stop. And just go away. Never before in my observation has anyone posted somthing that merits perminent expulsion from the site, but you Zeph, have finally claimed that title. This is a tolerant place, a friendly place, open to discuss every subject your over taxed little mind could possibly concieve of, but it must be presented in a tactful, respectful and logical package. You have over-stepped these bounds. You have no place here my friend. I am sorry to say that. But in my eyes, it is more than true. I'm not being overly critical or harsh here, and anyone that disagrees has more than earned not only the right but also my respect, to step forth and call me on it. Expel me too if I'm overstepping my bounds. But Zeph, this is just too damn much. You are jeopardizing more than just your membership here, you are compromising somthing that Jay, and Vain, and many others have worked so long and hard on, to make it what it is today. This site is now involved with Stephen R. Donaldson and his site, you could potentially be doing damage to him as well with this stuff.

I have been a lurker here since the first days of the original watch, and it is a great place to come to and visit. You could feel comfortable to browse any area of this site you choose and be secure in doing so, sadly, this is no longer the case, not with you hanging around Zeph. And I for one deeply resent that man. This isnt right.

So take this little game elsewhere, and leave the watch alone.
And so on I walk the world,
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Post by Zeph »

You think this is a koke? huh?

Ok. think what you need too. Meanwhile My sister is dead. Yeah there's nothing in the pittsburgh paper & I doubtt erhhe will be. But the fact of the ammer is she is dead. DEAD And gone. I have onliny my self to blame.

Yeah, I
'm drunk down & wtisted. but what the fckd, I mean it huirts. I'm just trying to stay on the line. My string is tuaght and the line is tight. Is't all over. If this is real then it is real if it is really just an sccident, then I apologixe. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm sorry i'm sory. How many times to I have to say it I'm sorry.

STOP please.
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No, I don't think this is a joke. I know it's a lie. And this is going way too far. Your sister isn't dead, there was no storm, and there is no one out to get you Mr. Nash. I'm sorry that you feel it necessary to gain attention like this Zeph. But that's all this is, you are trying to get attention, the big boy equivalent of "OH LOOK AT ME!" If your sister is dead then why, why for christs sake are you on a computer right now? Why? Because she isn't.

I liked what you did in the new entry by the way, you took my advice on the ole drunken bit, not bad, but you still need some work, drunken typing is hallmarked usually by omission not incorrect key strokes, but keep at it guy you'll get there......



Whew.................



Look Zeph, I'm not going to get into this with you, well, im going to try not to get into this with you. I dont want this to turn into some huge apocalyptic argument. Because that's not what this site needs. I'm haven't even really gotten heated yet, I'm just a little annoyed, frustrated, and a bit angry at your apparent disreguard for the damage you may be causing.



Zeph, I don't want to hurt you or anybody, when I say this, but right now, this isn't the right place for you okay? Not with your head the way it is now, besides you've already dug far too deep a hole to begin back peddling now. You know what my advice is my friend? My best advice to you in this situation, is to just go away from the watch for a week or two, just don't post anything and open up old wounds. Then when everything is cool with you, and you have things straigtened out, come back and make a new SN and start over. An no one here will bring up old grieveances as long as you just stay cool okay?

That is my advice to you sir, do with it, what you will.


This is a great place man, now I think we should all collectively; as one big happy family gathered around a huge wooden table, sipping down steamy coffee, and a few beers, sharing old stories; get up and move on together.

I hope you can join us someday Zeph, it's a great place, and these are awesome people we just don't need the baggage.



Goodnight Zeph, and goodluck man.



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Applauds DarkReflection's last two posts. :Hail:
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My best advice to you in this situation, is to just go away from the watch for a week or two, just don't post anything and open up old wounds. Then when everything is cool with you, and you have things straigtened out, come back and make a new SN and start over. An no one here will bring up old grieveances as long as you just stay cool okay?

Fat chance getting me to agree to that. :?
Dandelion don't tell no lies
Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion


I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
a fate I don't deserve.


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LOL
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Post by DarkReflection »

LOL. Well. I'm trying to be nice here Dan, I did kinda ream the little spit. I thought maybe I should toss the ole hoss a bone.

LOL

Good talking to you earlier Dan


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