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under the Philips listing on the Georgia prisons web page we find :
Vocational/OJT: Auto Body, Auto Mechanics, Welding, Small Engine, Barbering, Woodworking, Food Preparation, Printing, Building & Custodial Maintenance, Career Clerk, General Office Clerk (Library), and Laundry Operations
so they had access to tools and material as well.
I know it is only a tv show. but why were all the gates open when they first got there? and why was it so hard for them to clear the unit? a prison is designed to have many doors/gates that can be closed to impede movement. it allows you to section off parts of the prison so you can keep the inmates from bunching up.
I have to go through six gates/doors before I get to my chowhall doors. I have to be buzzed in the two front gates by the outside picket. and we have three gates in the main hallway that the center inside picket controls. (all the buzzed gates also have manual keys for power losses.) then I have four more doors before I get into my office. department doors are key controlled.
Vocational/OJT: Auto Body, Auto Mechanics, Welding, Small Engine, Barbering, Woodworking, Food Preparation, Printing, Building & Custodial Maintenance, Career Clerk, General Office Clerk (Library), and Laundry Operations
so they had access to tools and material as well.
I know it is only a tv show. but why were all the gates open when they first got there? and why was it so hard for them to clear the unit? a prison is designed to have many doors/gates that can be closed to impede movement. it allows you to section off parts of the prison so you can keep the inmates from bunching up.
I have to go through six gates/doors before I get to my chowhall doors. I have to be buzzed in the two front gates by the outside picket. and we have three gates in the main hallway that the center inside picket controls. (all the buzzed gates also have manual keys for power losses.) then I have four more doors before I get into my office. department doors are key controlled.
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Very true. This show is about the characters. And we already have some question marks to stick on Abraham's, which could be intriguing.Fist and Faith wrote:The point is what they did once that happened. So what will happen now that the need to get Eugene to DC is gone?
Still, part of me wishes that Eugene's lie is that he doesn't know how to stop it. That the inhumanity he demanded from what have become friends finally found a line he could not cross, even to save the world. That, too, would be interesting character arc.
Meanwhile ... is that firetruck dead again? I thought so, but then some of Abraham's comments made me wonder.
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I wasn't a fan of last night's episode. In fact, I'm tired of all the jumping around. It's all but impossible to stay on top of what's happening when the show follows a different group every week.
We kind of need to accept that at this point, barring the large herds, the zombies themselves are a mere annoyance. The show is necessarily shifting gears and focusing more on the relationships between the characters and the conflict(s) between different groups of survivors.
I think there's interesting stuff there, but that sort of drama leans heavily on the writers and the actors. The actors are mostly up to it; at issue is whether or not the writers can step up their game.
We kind of need to accept that at this point, barring the large herds, the zombies themselves are a mere annoyance. The show is necessarily shifting gears and focusing more on the relationships between the characters and the conflict(s) between different groups of survivors.
I think there's interesting stuff there, but that sort of drama leans heavily on the writers and the actors. The actors are mostly up to it; at issue is whether or not the writers can step up their game.
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This show has lost it. Treading water, that's it. There's no reason to watch it anymore. No character development. No plot. No danger. Nothing. Everything feels artificial, manufactured. Beth's death--in the writer's own words--was to create a feeling of "reality." Not because it was essential to the plot or characters, but merely for the audience. For effect. This is just silly melodrama.
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Well at least Hot Farm Girl finally remembered she had a sister.
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Walking Dead hasn't been exciting lately, but it's been interesting.
People who have been honed by trial into survivalist killers trying to fit back into "normal" society. More exploration of this balance between humanity and survival.
Carol and kids. Makes the episode this week.
My prediction is that, in a massive ironic twist, Rick and his gang destroy a perfectly "good" town, because they cannot trust it, because they cannot "go back".
Also: a Walking Dead prequel is in the works. I presume it's about how zombies happened. Two seasons at least, it seems.
AMC's 'Walking Dead' prequel lands two-season order
People who have been honed by trial into survivalist killers trying to fit back into "normal" society. More exploration of this balance between humanity and survival.
Carol and kids. Makes the episode this week.
My prediction is that, in a massive ironic twist, Rick and his gang destroy a perfectly "good" town, because they cannot trust it, because they cannot "go back".
Also: a Walking Dead prequel is in the works. I presume it's about how zombies happened. Two seasons at least, it seems.
AMC's 'Walking Dead' prequel lands two-season order
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I think you may well be right about that.wayfriend wrote:My prediction is that, in a massive ironic twist, Rick and his gang destroy a perfectly "good" town, because they cannot trust it, because they cannot "go back".
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Interesting. Thanx.wayfriend wrote:Also: a Walking Dead prequel is in the works. I presume it's about how zombies happened. Two seasons at least, it seems.
AMC's 'Walking Dead' prequel lands two-season order
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The opening episode for Season 6 was one of the best episodes in a long time. I think it breaks the record for most zombies in one episode! And not only did it have an interesting story, but it really tied together everything that happened in Alexandria last year and gave it a couple of new twists, too. If this episode had been the finale last year, it would have been a killer finale. Complete with cliff-hanger. Oh, and thumbs up on the black and white. And Glenn's story was another treat.
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Who blew the horn........?
The Wolves?
The Rev?
The teenage girl with all the angst?
Why wasn't Rosita in this episode? Did she and Abraham break up and now he's after Sasha?
Will Mishon (sp?) and Morgan get together?
Inquiring minds want to know.
The Wolves?
The Rev?
The teenage girl with all the angst?
Why wasn't Rosita in this episode? Did she and Abraham break up and now he's after Sasha?
Will Mishon (sp?) and Morgan get together?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Agreed. They seem to know how to do a good premier episode (I remember last year's being good to).wayfriend wrote:The opening episode for Season 6 was one of the best episodes in a long time. I think it breaks the record for most zombies in one episode! And not only did it have an interesting story, but it really tied together everything that happened in Alexandria last year and gave it a couple of new twists, too. If this episode had been the finale last year, it would have been a killer finale. Complete with cliff-hanger. Oh, and thumbs up on the black and white. And Glenn's story was another treat.
Hopefully they've learned their lesson and don't keep them static (like at the farm) for the entire season.
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Bad plot mechanics always distract me from the drama, and in this case, the bad plot specifically undermined the conflict between the characters. Rick's plan was stupid. A single loud noise can derail the entire thing?? You're going to risk your entire city on the hope that no one accidentally fires a gun or bumps their car horn? The doubting dude was right! The writers did their best to make him look wrong, weak, inexperienced, etc., but he was right. It wasn't just fear or lack of zombie-fighting machismo, but rather that Rick's plan was dumb. Surely they could have devised some way to kill all the zombies right where they were! Like shooting fish in a barrel. They had time to build barriers along the way, so they could have easily built something to replace the unstable semi. With that taken care of, they could have built catapults at their leisure and simply lobbed rocks at the zombies, like some sort of apocalyptic video game whenever they got bored. They wouldn't even have to kill them all, just manage their numbers, let their noise attract all the stray zombies in the vicinity, like the moon sweeping up stray asteroids and keeping earth safe. An ideal situation, really, that needed no insane exodus plan.
I thought the black/white thing was too gimmicky. If your story doesn't have enough tension in its original chronological order, chopping it up to force moments of contrast is just going to feel artificial and, well, gimmicky. It's like an episode of Lost with 20 flashbacks. It took me out of the story every time.
I thought the black/white thing was too gimmicky. If your story doesn't have enough tension in its original chronological order, chopping it up to force moments of contrast is just going to feel artificial and, well, gimmicky. It's like an episode of Lost with 20 flashbacks. It took me out of the story every time.
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What I didn't get was Rick's full plan. Was he just trying to lead them away from the community, or was he leading them somewhere that would possibly destroy them? Because the former seems pretty stupid.
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Show has really risen from the dead. Fillming of episode 2 (or was it 1?) in black and white and color was great, The change in the personalities is subtle enough to be believable and WHAT IS UP with Morgan? I think something happened to him on the road which we will see in flashback.
Lovin' the show again.
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I loved Glenn. He was the humanity in the show. My hope is the other guy was on top of him and they were eating him not Glenn. And Glenn rolled under the container. But I get the feeling, especially after The Talking Dead, that the producers won't do that. I think they will show him as a zombie.
Show has really risen from the dead. Fillming of episode 2 (or was it 1?) in black and white and color was great, The change in the personalities is subtle enough to be believable and WHAT IS UP with Morgan? I think something happened to him on the road which we will see in flashback.
Lovin' the show again.
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No!
Something bothered me when Hershel's pocket watch came out.
Nicholas sucks, right?
Caught up with eps 2 and 3 last night. Good episodes, very powerful stuff. Carol just keeps astounding. The Alexandrians inability to survive keeps moving the plot in unexpected ways. Daryl's been held back, expecting some D-centric episodes. Zombies are still dangerous.
And the shit hasn't hit the fan yet ... those zombies are still heading towards those walls.
And what happened to Rick's hand? F***.
Something bothered me when Hershel's pocket watch came out.
Nicholas sucks, right?
Caught up with eps 2 and 3 last night. Good episodes, very powerful stuff. Carol just keeps astounding. The Alexandrians inability to survive keeps moving the plot in unexpected ways. Daryl's been held back, expecting some D-centric episodes. Zombies are still dangerous.
And the shit hasn't hit the fan yet ... those zombies are still heading towards those walls.
And what happened to Rick's hand? F***.
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wayfriend wrote:No!
And what happened to Rick's hand? F***.
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The knife broke and he cut his hand, I think he broke some fingers. But I don't think there was contamination. There must be another factor to activating the virus not just getting blood on an open wound.
I think it was just to lead them away, which I agree was pretty stupid. They should have 'nuked' them in the pit, which would have drawn any others to the fire.Cagliostro wrote:What I didn't get was Rick's full plan. Was he just trying to lead them away from the community, or was he leading them somewhere that would possibly destroy them? Because the former seems pretty stupid.
Carol and Morgan are going to go at it. I think she cried because she wasn't invisible anymore. Part of her wanted to be the happy little housewife and pretend it was going to all be alright.
Took me awhile to figure out what JSS meant.
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Just Somehow Survive
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