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Post by **Damelon** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 5:05 pm

Lord Mhoram wrote:I doubt that he was, I mean Kevin didn't have a child, did he?

None that ever were mentioned.

Post by **Forestal** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 12:38 am

just because 1 wasn't meantioned, doesn't mean there wasn't one... but in a way, the warsd were Kevin's sons... and with the lords using kevin's wards, they were effectivly, in 1 way, his sons...

Post by **[Syl]** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 12:41 am

making Amok his lovechild?

Post by **Forestal** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 12:43 am

in a sense...

Post by **duchess of malfi** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 12:53 am

We really don't know anything about the Old Lords, their marriages (if any) or their kids. For all we know Berek might have had twenty children and five wives! We are only told about Damelon, nothing at all about Damelon's mother. I've always wondered if she was the Queen? There might have been many lines of descent from Berek that we are unaware of...

Post by **Damelon** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 3:27 am

Forestal wrote:just because 1 wasn't meantioned, doesn't mean there wasn't one... but in a way, the warsd were Kevin's sons... and with the lords using kevin's wards, they were effectivly, in 1 way, his sons...

Interesting point, but the question was if Mhoram was a direct decendant of Kevin. There is no evidence one way or the other.

Someone, I guess, should have asked the Bloodguard.

Post by **Forestal** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 3:35 am

yes... there r so many questions i would like 2 ask the bloodguard...

perhaps some1 should start a new thread on this? but right now i'm going 2 bed, night all

Post by **Reisheiruhime** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 3:42 am

What if Berek, Damelon, Loric, or Kevin had daughters?

Post by **Forestal** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 12:52 pm

then we never heard about them...

Post by **duchess of malfi** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 3:23 pm

Actually, even if Mhoram and one or both of his parents were descended from the Old High Lords, the Bloodguard wouldn't know. They were sent off to the mountains by Kevin, they would have no idea of the generations between the Desecration and the time when they regained contact with the other survivors.
Yes, the Old High Lords could have had daughters, or other sons we never heard of. I find it rather unlikely that three generations in a row (Berek, Damelon, and Loric and their partners) only produced one son each. Surely there would have been other kids, as well. And who knows about Kevin?

KaosArcana · Post by **KaosArcana** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:36 pm

Actually, even if Mhoram and one or both of his parents were descended from the Old High Lords, the Bloodguard wouldn't know. They were sent off to the mountains by Kevin, they would have no idea of the generations between the Desecration and the time when they regained contact with the other survivors.
Yes, the Old High Lords could have had daughters, or other sons we never heard of. I find it rather unlikely that three generations in a row (Berek, Damelon, and Loric and their partners) only produced one son each. Surely there would have been other kids, as well. And who knows about Kevin?

Well, it depends on how much the Old Lords wanted children. They may
have been able to use Earthpower to prevent conception unless they
wanted to have children.

Post by **duchess of malfi** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 5:08 pm

I have wondered if the way they people of the Land can "see" each other healthwise has been a form of birthcontrol for them. i.e. they simply avoid sex at times when the woman is fertile? There just doesn't seem to be very many kids...
But even if a couple decided to have only one child, would earthpower help them decide the sex of that child? Wouldn't at least one of the old high lords have had a daughter rather than a son, statistically speaking?

Post by **Lord Mhoram** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 6:57 pm

Well, each of the Old Lords lived to be, what? 4, 500 years old??

Post by **duchess of malfi** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 7:26 pm

I think someone somewhere in the first chrons says that the Old Lords lived centuries as most people lived decades...if the New Lords, etc. have problems with aging slower than their spouses, wonder how the Old Lords dealt with that problem? Or did they only marry other Lords?

KaosArcana · Post by **KaosArcana** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 7:58 pm

I think someone somewhere in the first chrons says that the Old Lords lived centuries as most people lived decades...if the New Lords, etc. have problems with aging slower than their spouses, wonder how the Old Lords dealt with that problem? Or did they only marry other Lords?

Elena said that. It's also true for Hirebrands and Gravelingas as
Atirian aged while Trell did not.

Maybe the Old Lords would fall in love with someone and have a
child ... and then be heartbroken when their mate and children
died while they continued aging very slowly. Surely not every
child of a Lord has the aptitude to be a Lord him or herself.

How tragic would it be if the thing that gave meaning to your life
doomed to you lose the ones you loved the most?

Post by **duchess of malfi** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 8:00 pm

It would be very tragic, for me at least, possibly unbearable...

Post by **Forestal** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 10:11 pm

perhaps this added to kevin's dispair... as he lived longest fo the old lords...

Post by **duchess of malfi** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:38 pm

Thta's quite possible. Might not have even been a wife/girlfriend/child that aged and died while he stayed young. Could have been his mom or brothers and sisters...I really do wish we knew more about the Old Lords!

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