How many of us would have stayed?
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Re: Save my life!
Yeah, Pitchwife, I was pretty much a mess, too, when TC realized that he was going to die in our world....
I think what you're saying is that when TC took Joan's place on the altar, he had some hope of coming out of it alive. And I agree with you. He's not so selfless, or still so in love with Joan, that he would willingly sacrifice himself for her. And anyway, he knew that Foul really wanted him, not Joan.
He definitely believed that Linden could save his life if he sent her back. It's a complete shock to him when she comes back to the Land and tells him that she can't save him in our world while his -- soul? -- is in the Land.
Soul? Essence? Shadow-self? Hmm, I think I just opened a whole new can o'worms. This calls for a new subject....
I think what you're saying is that when TC took Joan's place on the altar, he had some hope of coming out of it alive. And I agree with you. He's not so selfless, or still so in love with Joan, that he would willingly sacrifice himself for her. And anyway, he knew that Foul really wanted him, not Joan.
He definitely believed that Linden could save his life if he sent her back. It's a complete shock to him when she comes back to the Land and tells him that she can't save him in our world while his -- soul? -- is in the Land.
Soul? Essence? Shadow-self? Hmm, I think I just opened a whole new can o'worms. This calls for a new subject....
I would have Stayed
I would have stayed if I were TC because:
A: You have a better chance of getting a girl in The Land
B: You have a longer life-span in The Land
C: You don't have to deal with crap in The Land
D: You can feel better in The Land
A: You have a better chance of getting a girl in The Land

B: You have a longer life-span in The Land
C: You don't have to deal with crap in The Land
D: You can feel better in The Land
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The wisest choice would be to come back. The white gold ring would be endlessly pursued by Lord Foul with his malevolent schemes and great minions. The Chronicles would take on a LOTR's theme with the One Ring and Sauron. Which would have been just as or even more interesting than JRRT's work. Makes me appreciate Donaldson's version all the more.
I would have chosen to come back because TC/white gold wielder is too catalystic for better or worse to remain in the Land. And I absolutely love the Land. In TC's shoes, all that wonder and beauty would be soooo hard to surrender to the mundane real world.
I would have chosen to come back because TC/white gold wielder is too catalystic for better or worse to remain in the Land. And I absolutely love the Land. In TC's shoes, all that wonder and beauty would be soooo hard to surrender to the mundane real world.
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I would have stayed in the land because my friends, family, and significant other are important to me, but only to a logical extent rather than an emotional expanse. In other words, I could more easily stand being apart from them than most people. I also hate society. Too many people. I hate being behind people. I'm positive I would receive solitary confinement as a reward rather than a punishment.
I firmly believe that the world's problems of famine, endangered species, ozone layer, amazon trees, etc., are all associated with overpopulation. If instead of 6 billion we had 1 million, the world would be a far better place.
Plus, in the land, I would be able to see health & wonderful creatures and wonderous magic. I would know how to do stuff that would give me high standing and great value to the community. I think it would be wonderful to live in the land and say goodbye to everything here.
I firmly believe that the world's problems of famine, endangered species, ozone layer, amazon trees, etc., are all associated with overpopulation. If instead of 6 billion we had 1 million, the world would be a far better place.
Plus, in the land, I would be able to see health & wonderful creatures and wonderous magic. I would know how to do stuff that would give me high standing and great value to the community. I think it would be wonderful to live in the land and say goodbye to everything here.
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I think I'll go back to planet Earth. Too much good stuff here. Archaeology might get boring in the Land too.
Be it ever so humble, there is NO place like home.
Zeph, you're beginning to sound like an anthropologist. Cheer up, once the cataclysm hits those of us who survive we'll be forced to be hunter-gatherers again.
Sure am glad I can make stone tools, woohoo!
Be it ever so humble, there is NO place like home.
Zeph, you're beginning to sound like an anthropologist. Cheer up, once the cataclysm hits those of us who survive we'll be forced to be hunter-gatherers again.
Sure am glad I can make stone tools, woohoo!
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Now I understand you better. A parent. I should have thought as much. How easily we forget when we were wild. I'm sure that you'll do all the things your mother did when you were growing up (those things you hated).
Be in before dark, don't be late, don't go near the park alone, or whatever no's your parents issued.
I'm not bitter at you personally, but I find it ironic how people behave. They don't grow up they grow in. If I had kids and I wanted to stay in the land, I would. And if I had kids, then they would have to fend for themselves in this life because they would not be inheriting anything from me. I wouldn't make my boys and girls lazy with money and property. I'd give them advice and let them make their own path. Inotherwords, I would spend all my money. You can't take it with you. If I gave life to children, then I've already done much. But they would never, ever, ever ruin my chance to be happy in a place where I could see health and where there would be peace in the world for all the rest of my days, where there would be no lines at the movies or traffic lights, where I could listen to brave tales of how we defeated Foul. You've got to be kidding. I would never give it away. It would be too precious to me. Besides, I could make more children over there anyway. I can't bring the land here.
Be in before dark, don't be late, don't go near the park alone, or whatever no's your parents issued.
I'm not bitter at you personally, but I find it ironic how people behave. They don't grow up they grow in. If I had kids and I wanted to stay in the land, I would. And if I had kids, then they would have to fend for themselves in this life because they would not be inheriting anything from me. I wouldn't make my boys and girls lazy with money and property. I'd give them advice and let them make their own path. Inotherwords, I would spend all my money. You can't take it with you. If I gave life to children, then I've already done much. But they would never, ever, ever ruin my chance to be happy in a place where I could see health and where there would be peace in the world for all the rest of my days, where there would be no lines at the movies or traffic lights, where I could listen to brave tales of how we defeated Foul. You've got to be kidding. I would never give it away. It would be too precious to me. Besides, I could make more children over there anyway. I can't bring the land here.
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Actually, I make a special point to not act like my own mother.
It's much more simple to me, you see. I love my children. I enjoy their company more than any other people that I know. I would be unhappy and miss them greatly if they were not a part of my life. I suppose I could have other children, and that I would love them just as much -- but they would be completely different people, and I would still greatly miss the ones here and now.
They are growing quickly. I wish to enjoy the time I have with them before they are adults.

It's much more simple to me, you see. I love my children. I enjoy their company more than any other people that I know. I would be unhappy and miss them greatly if they were not a part of my life. I suppose I could have other children, and that I would love them just as much -- but they would be completely different people, and I would still greatly miss the ones here and now.

They are growing quickly. I wish to enjoy the time I have with them before they are adults.

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It is a common mistake to believe that your happiness will be achieved from some outside source. Bitter, angry people will be bitter and angry even in paradise, and happy people will be happy in less ideal places. (Though I assume there's a limit to just how bad the place can be. The happiest person in the world probably couldn't turn lemons into lemonade in Hell.)
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Exactly. Running there to be happy would be a waste of time for those who cannot be happy.
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I don't understand. It makes no sense to me. I guess you feel the way you do & I feel the way I do. No problem with that.duchess of malfi wrote:It's much more simple to me, you see. I love my children. I enjoy their company more than any other people that I know. I would be unhappy and miss them greatly if they were not a part of my life. I suppose I could have other children, and that I would love them just as much -- but they would be completely different people, and I would still greatly miss the ones here and now.![]()
They are growing quickly. I wish to enjoy the time I have with them before they are adults.