What's the point?

[Revan]

hmmm... I was sitting here, just thinking about life... and I caught myself wondering, what's the point? Why are we here? I mean think about it, we'll all die, never to be remembered appreciated by anyone in the future... what's the point? Why are we here? Not here, as on Earth, but why do we exist? We'll be nothing but dust one day... that just saddened me...

heh, don't get me wrong; I love life. But it just struck me that we'll all die never to be remembered in the future. (Of course I don't mean by our close relatives, but their childrens children.)

Don't mind me folks, Young Darth is just in danger of having a coherent thought... hmmm...

[Worm of Despite]

Don't worry Darth, everybody thinks such thoughts every once and a while.

I believe that we live only one life, and there's a possibility there's no afterlife. So what can we do? Just enjoy it, this life. "Enjoy." That's my life motto. There's nothing else we can really do. There's no great purpose to building a snowman, taking a hike. Those things pass. But we do them because we enjoy them.

If you're loving life, Darth, then you already found the point. You just didn't know it.

[Cate]

Darth, sweet prince, yes, we all get those thoughts. I myself have been a seeker all my life, and nearly lost my mind over just such contemplation- letting it take me down farther and farther until I found that as I "listen" inside myself, many morsels of Truth open up.
I have come to the conclusion that we do not end. I think we are all part of a whole, and we are all part of an intelligence that cannot end. I don't think those we have loved and lost to "death" are lost to us forever.
The Scriptures say that we will know as we are known, and over time, letting go of religious dogma and just finding my own way, I believe that means that after we finish this journey-learning all we could here- we go on to the next thing---whatever that is, and since I haven't been there I can't tell you that.......but I just KNOW in my heart (spirit?) that this is not all there is and not even a speck on the horizon. I believe we must retain what knowledge we collect, and lessons we learn, because all that makes up the personal part of each us.
LOVE is the most important thing ever anywhere though, and is the basis of everything-- I believe.
I think as time goes on--or as WE go on--we will find that God, life, Truth, all of it will prove to be quite different than we have thought or been taught.
A few things I have held onto and one of them is the scripture that says......He that comes to God must believe that He IS and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him........
I don't think that is a command or a rule. I think it is a statement......If you come to God,that is, search for Him, talk to Him, then it is because you believe that He exists or want to KNOW that He exists, and you desire to know Him.
I think that God (not the one created by religions)
is very easy to find, once you realize He actually is everywhere in everything and everyone.

"Whither shall I go from Thy presence?"
I think we cannot fathom the depth of love that wants to unfold itself to us and in us, and we cannot help but be drawn each in our own path to what lessons and Truth love has to teach us.
I do not have the answers to any of our questions about all the pain and suffering in the world, but I do believe that it will al make sense when we have reached our own perfection, although while we are here going through it, it all does seem pointless a lot of the time and downright confusing and stupid. God, being Who and What He is, perfect-so He doesnt need to change His mind- does not get mad at us for our questions, our crying and whining, our anger and rage even at Him. after all, it is pointless to try to hide anything from One Who knows all........
So we are told to "comfort one another" and we know that we are all up and down, but not always up at the same times.......so when someone is down, it is a pickup to say a comforting word.
We are all locked up in this world of vanity and futility together. Horrible things happen all the time and none of us really understand but until we do, we have an obligation to one another to try to bring some comfort, inspiration, encouragement, help, fun, a smile, anything good that we can, and if we can't help or feel too angry to be kind, then we must back off.
There really is something inside that tells you right from wrong. It's just that most of us learned to squelch that voice at a young age. we need to learn to listen to it again.
Arguing religion is not only pointless it is absurd.
I'm not religious anymore, but I am a believer in Love and a seeker of Truth.
I hope I have not offended anyone. My only intent was to make anyone who is down feel better. I know I need someone to pick me up or even drag me from time to time as well.
You've all become quite dear to me in a short time. And I say from my heart to all.........Blessings.
Cate

[Fist and Faith]

heh, don't get me wrong; I love life.

That's the point.

[CovenantJr]

Well said, all of you.

[Skyweir]

Darth, sweet prince, yes, we all get those thoughts. I myself have been a seeker all my life, and nearly lost my mind over just such contemplation- letting it take me down farther and farther until I found that as I "listen" inside myself, many morsels of Truth open up.
I have come to the conclusion that we do not end. I think we are all part of a whole, and we are all part of an intelligence that cannot end. I don't think those we have loved and lost to "death" are lost to us forever.
The Scriptures say that we will know as we are known, and over time, letting go of religious dogma and just finding my own way, I believe that means that after we finish this journey-learning all we could here- we go on to the next thing---whatever that is, and since I haven't been there I can't tell you that.......but I just KNOW in my heart (spirit?) that this is not all there is and not even a speck on the horizon. I believe we must retain what knowledge we collect, and lessons we learn, because all that makes up the personal part of each us.
LOVE is the most important thing ever anywhere though, and is the basis of everything-- I believe.
I think as time goes on--or as WE go on--we will find that God, life, Truth, all of it will prove to be quite different than we have thought or been taught.
A few things I have held onto and one of them is the scripture that says......He that comes to God must believe that He IS and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him........
I don't think that is a command or a rule. I think it is a statement......If you come to God,that is, search for Him, talk to Him, then it is because you believe that He exists or want to KNOW that He exists, and you desire to know Him.
I think that God (not the one created by religions)
is very easy to find, once you realize He actually is everywhere in everything and everyone.

"Whither shall I go from Thy presence?"
I think we cannot fathom the depth of love that wants to unfold itself to us and in us, and we cannot help but be drawn each in our own path to what lessons and Truth love has to teach us.
I do not have the answers to any of our questions about all the pain and suffering in the world, but I do believe that it will al make sense when we have reached our own perfection, although while we are here going through it, it all does seem pointless a lot of the time and downright confusing and stupid. God, being Who and What He is, perfect-so He doesnt need to change His mind- does not get mad at us for our questions, our crying and whining, our anger and rage even at Him. after all, it is pointless to try to hide anything from One Who knows all........
So we are told to "comfort one another" and we know that we are all up and down, but not always up at the same times.......so when someone is down, it is a pickup to say a comforting word.
We are all locked up in this world of vanity and futility together. Horrible things happen all the time and none of us really understand but until we do, we have an obligation to one another to try to bring some comfort, inspiration, encouragement, help, fun, a smile, anything good that we can, and if we can't help or feel too angry to be kind, then we must back off.
There really is something inside that tells you right from wrong. It's just that most of us learned to squelch that voice at a young age. we need to learn to listen to it again.
Arguing religion is not only pointless it is absurd.
I'm not religious anymore, but I am a believer in Love and a seeker of Truth.
I hope I have not offended anyone. My only intent was to make anyone who is down feel better. I know I need someone to pick me up or even drag me from time to time as well.
You've all become quite dear to me in a short time. And I say from my heart to all.........Blessings.
Cate

*bows deeply*

more beautiful words i have not read! ... really well expressed cate!! a kindred soul you are! your words resonnate with my own soul!! i feel the essence of them and the rightness of them .. and I too am a seeker of truth and a believer in love.

thankyou for your words!

[Bucky OHare]

I think that the Ancient Greeks thought the purpose of life was 'Eudaimonia', meaning to fulfill your potential - to educate yourself as much as you can etc. You need to live your life to the utmost while you still have it.

Those were really beautiful words by Cate. I don't disagree with them, though, I can't remember which philosopher said it (tho i think he was german), but he said the anguish about what was the point of our existence was part of the human condition, but once we realised that there actually was no point in our existence, we could get on with living our lives and be happier. its kind of a don't worry, be happy attitude.

[Fist and Faith]

GJ, I don't know who originally said it either, but Bernard said it to Joel on Northern Exposure.

Cate, you really did a great job above! And I sure wish you were around more often, because I think you're a wonderful addition to the Watch.

[Cate]

Bless you Sky and Johnny. It's sharing that makes this "life" worth living. Thanks for responding.

thanks Fist. You made me feel welcome from the first.
My computer was down for a week. Glad to be back.