Which is greater, the fool; or the fool that follows?

Post by **dANdeLION** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:25 pm

Well, which is it? The fool; or the fool that follows? I think it's time we answered this question. I say the fool. No, wait; the fool who follows. What exactly is the fool following, anyway? If they're both fools, what does it matter who is leading and who is following?

Anyway, as you can see, the teachings of the Jedi are often circular and sometimes a little confusing. This is the place to discuss them, analize them, and tell us what your favourite Jedi phrase is. To me, it's a combination of two: Obi-Wan telling Luke to trust his feelings, and Vader telling Luke to give in to them; sounds like the two are offering the same advice!

Post by **aTOMiC** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:35 pm

Clearly its the tool I mean the fool who follows. How dumb can you be? Especially if the idiot you are following leaps over a cliff right in front of you.

Post by **dANdeLION** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:44 pm

But, if you're a fool, how can you be expected to understand that the one you're following is also a fool?

Post by **aTOMiC** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:46 pm

dANdeLION wrote:But, if you're a fool, how can you be expected to understand that the one you're following is also a fool?

I think your question makes my point for me.

Post by **dANdeLION** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:49 pm

You had a point? Scary. Anyway, what's your favourite Jedi-ism?

Post by **aTOMiC** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:51 pm

dANdeLION wrote:You had a point? Scary. Anyway, what's your favourite Jedi-ism?

Obviously its "There is no try."

Post by **dANdeLION** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:59 pm

"Do or do not. There is no try" Yes. Good one. But, how can there be no "try"? I try to imagine a world with no "try" in it, but the attempt itself is "trying", and so the attempt fails before it starts. Still, if he means that one will only be remembered for his successes or failures, then I guess he has a point.

Post by **aTOMiC** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:14 pm

I took that legendary comment from Yoda to mean.."Stop being a dink and do it already! I'm sick of your self doubt and constant whining! Do you hear?!?"

Post by **dANdeLION** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:55 pm

Well, it looks like we have this thread to ourselves.....perhaps if we included great Vulcan sayings, we'd attract more attention.

Post by **Revan** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:13 pm

I think the fool who follows the fool is worse... The Fool think he's actions are probably good.

heh.

The fool who follows should fall over and die somewhere...

bah!

Post by **aTOMiC** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:21 pm

dANdeLION wrote:Well, it looks like we have this thread to ourselves.....perhaps if we included great Vulcan sayings, we'd attract more attention.

With the addition of Rev there is no need to add Vulcan clap trap. Although there is something to be said about "Live long and prosper". I can't realy argue with that. "May the Force be with you." Bah.

Post by **dANdeLION** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:21 pm

Darth Revan wrote:I think the fool who follows the fool is worse... The Fool think he's actions are probably good. ... bah!

But the fool who follows is just agreeing with the fool, proving they're both equally foolish! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Post by **aTOMiC** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:27 pm

Remember the philosophical question we are discussing was espoused by a proven filthy liar. Food for thought.

Post by **matrixman** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:13 pm

I agree with Lord Revan that the greater fool is the one who follows. But that means I'm in agreement with Ben Kenobi, which means I'm a liar, which means you can't trust what I say. You're right, dAN, this is all circular and confusing.

But does this mean I'm the fool for following you guys into this thread? Maybe I should fall over and die somewhere, as Darth recommends.

(falls over and dies...to be resurrected in a crappy sequel)

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:00 pm

(Genesis wave pours over Matrixman, reforming him into a fast-growing zygote.)

Post by **CovenantJr** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:07 pm

Matrixman wrote:I agree with Lord Revan that the greater fool is the one who follows. But that means I'm in agreement with Ben Kenobi, which means I'm a liar, which means you can't trust what I say. You're right, dAN, this is all circular and confusing.

But does this mean I'm the fool for following you guys into this thread? Maybe I should fall over and die somewhere, as Darth recommends.

(falls over and dies...to be resurrected in a crappy sequel)

Post by **matrixman** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:54 pm

dlbpharmd wrote:(Genesis wave pours over Matrixman, reforming him into a fast-growing zygote.)

Dead folks just aren't safe from deadlier screenwriters...

...and hey, CovJr, save the bowing for Lord Revan. No one has bowed to him for a while, I don't think. He may find our lack of faith disturbing.

Post by **CovenantJr** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:14 am

Think on that and be dismayed

Post by **Revan** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:30 pm

Matrixman wrote:I agree with Lord Revan that the greater fool is the one who follows. But that means I'm in agreement with Ben Kenobi, which means I'm a liar, which means you can't trust what I say. You're right, dAN, this is all circular and confusing.

But does this mean I'm the fool for following you guys into this thread? Maybe I should fall over and die somewhere, as Darth recommends.

(falls over and dies...to be resurrected in a crappy sequel)

Don't you mean crappy prequel?

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