Who IS that guy on TPTP?

Post by **The Dreaming** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:50 pm

Ok, this question is probably a little pointless, but it has been nagging me for a LONG time. Who exactly is that next to Foamfollower on the Herring cover of TPTP *you can look at it on this site, for some reason I am not getting a link in the toolbar*

There seems to be some assumption that it is Covenant. There are several reasons why I don’t think its him.

One is that he is wearing a breastplate and has a sword. Covenant ready for battle? No way.

I just recently learned that all 6 of the Herring covers link to form one painting. This gives an entirely different view of the whole thing. How could Covenant be there? He is already *in* the painting on the cover of White Gold Wielder. If you think I am stretching it, put all 6 of them together and you will see what I mean.

Well, if it's not Covenant, then who the hell *is* it? No one but Foamfollower and Covenant were ever that close to Fouls Crèche (I assume that is what that place behind them is, complete with hotesh slay [sp?])

Well, I always thought it was Bannor. I *Know* he has a sword, and I *know* he was never that close to foul's crèche, but if you look at the whole mural, The covers seem to take a more symbolic meaning. Why do I think its Bannor? Well, who else could it be? Bannor seems to me to play a role comparable to the one Foamfollower plays. He also appears as he is described in the book, with a mustache (Don’t hold me to that, I don’t have the book in front of me), hair that is graying, and he is tending a Ranyhyn.

Well, there is my pointless argument. Any thoughts?

Post by **kevinswatch** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:19 pm

Heh. Well, the problem with cover art for novels is the fact that they're never accurate. Heh. The artist for the cover art is ususally not someone who has read the books, but have only been given a little information about the books to work with. As a result, we ususally end up with cover art that doesn't fit to the story exactly.

I'm pretty sure that the person on TPTP has to be Covenant, simply because the big tall guy has to be Foamfollower, heh. The fact he had a breastplate and sword is probably just artisit liscence, heh.

Just look at the cover art for the Wheel of Time series. The person who's supposed to be "Rand" on each cover is a different height and has different hair color on every book. And it was even all done by the same artist! Heh.

-jay

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:24 pm

This is just another example of a bad cover, and we all know how much I love to complain about bad covers.

Post by **The Dreaming** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:31 pm

I actually don’t think the covers are that bad, if you put them all together and look. Makes it more epic feeling. Also it makes itself into more of an artistic interpretation of the series as a whole.

And cool, a n00b like me getting a response from the High lord himself! Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

Post by **kevinswatch** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:38 pm

Heh, well, no problem.-jay

Post by **CovenantJr** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:42 pm

The Dreaming wrote:And cool, a n00b like me getting a response from the High lord himself! Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

You're a favoured one!

About the cover - I think it's all been said. Cover art is notoriously innacurate. Watch out for my rant about the new US covers for the Covenant books, with a yellow gold ring on the cover

Post by **Edge** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:51 pm

For those interested....

Post by **The Dreaming** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:54 pm

Hmm, Is it possible to put I chrons on the right and II chrons on the left? All 6 are supposed to be one painting.

Post by **CovenantJr** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:57 pm

Bah, the landscape on my dad's copies is much better.

Post by **Edge** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:59 pm

The Dreaming wrote:Hmm, Is it possible to put I chrons on the right and II chrons on the left? All 6 are supposed to be one painting.

Thanks for pointing that out

- fixed it.

Post by **I'm Murrin** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:47 pm

My copies have a landscape running behind the main cover image (which is in a circle on the front of each (or in the single volume, on front, side, and back)) - the first chrons showing the Land from Revelstone to the southern mountains, the second chrons showing the same landscape, but under a desert sun. Better covers than most of those I've seen pictures of, IMO.

Post by **CovenantJr** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:53 pm

Yeah, that's the one my dad's got. His copies are from the early 80s.

Post by **I'm Murrin** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:44 pm

They were printed again with the same art in the mid-90s, those are the ones I got. Can't seem to find a definate on who the artist was.

Edit - These ones?
I have these ones. (although my second chrons is single-volume - same art, though).

Post by **Edge** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:45 pm

Yeah, I think those are the best covers... so far. Those are the ones I own.

The artist is Peter Goodfellow.

Post by **CovenantJr** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:09 pm

Yes, Edge. Those are the ones. Only the First Chrons though.

Post by **Variol Farseer** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:26 am

Hard to tell at the size of the pictures I'm looking at (and I don't have a copy of that edition handy to check out in detail), but it occurs to me that the wee feller on TPTP might possibly be Triock.

Post by **UrLord** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:07 pm

That's what I thought. Rather than being Covenant and Foamfollower at the end of the book, it seems to me that it's Triock and Foamfollower at the beginning.

Post by **Arturia** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:01 pm

Edge

Thanks for this. These are the ones I have in hardcover from way back when (1st Chrons - Richard Drew Publishing; One Tree - Sidgwick & Jackson; White Gold Wielder - Collins). Still my favourite set of covers of all the covers I've seen. Gives a real sense of scale and scenery, but with a hint of a scene in the book (esp Wounded Land, which I only have in pb version).

Any ideas where I might get a copy of the Wounded Land, hardback UK edition?

Arturia

Post by **Edge** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:29 pm

You're very welcome.

And you might find what you're looking for here - at a pretty reasonable price.

Post by **drew** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:13 pm

I would deffinatly say its either Triock or an obscure Bannor....the picture is not one scene in general...they never took a horse to Foul's Creche. Around the Creche it's all snow from the perpetual winter...not Hotash Slay. I'd say Bannor (for some reason wearing the attire of a warmark)
just because Tricok is in his seventies-the guy looks like he's in his forties.[/i]

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Who IS that guy on TPTP?

Who IS that guy on TPTP?