Names in the Chronicles...
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I thinks one of the reason he uses some unpronouncable names, is so that they are not taken from other books. With there being so many fantasy books out there, I'm sure he has not read them all, but a word like suru-pa-marel...good chance that it hasn't been used before-or after. I've only seen two names myself that have been used since-there is a Brinn in Wishsong of Shannara, and a Berek (spelled Barak) in the Belgaraid.
I love the way he can manipulate words to make new ones...things like
Revelstone/Gravelingas/woodhelvinin/...or even Delsec.
I love the way he can manipulate words to make new ones...things like
Revelstone/Gravelingas/woodhelvinin/...or even Delsec.
I kept thinking of that fat old 18th century historian writing about the Fall of Rome."Gibbon" brings to mind images of monkeys
On the whole though I didn’t find Dondalson’s names all that jarring. Being multi-lingual I’m not bothered by some of the odder phonology, and the insertion of a couple of real-world names like Kevin and Lena can be allowed as a coincidence (which can happen in languages). Also, anyone notice that there’s actually a rule (in the First Chronicles at least) by which women’s names can be formed from their mother’s: it’s prefix the first (strong) vowel from the mother’s own name to that name, so that Elena is Lena-daughter, Osondrea is Sondrea-daughter, and Atiaran is Tiaran-daughter (the “i” vowel is a weak glide, not a full vowel) Of course this only works for a single generation,. Otherwise, if Elena had had a daughter we’d end up with E’elena, and so forth. This is about Donaldson’s only real attempt at linguistic veracity in his work. Otherwise he just seems to cannibalize real world languages at random: Sanskrit and Hebrew for the Raver’s names, French for “Coercri” and so forth.
As for The Land, a lot of real world languages have only a single word for Land and Earth, for example Latin “Terra”. I think this is also similar to the way that many primitive peoples simply call themselves “The People” (and call other folks by some very uncomplimentary names: The Ugly Ones, the Monsters, etc.)
Speaking of names, anyone else find it odd (maybe even annoying) that everyone speaks the same language? Except the Demondim-spawn that is, whose vocal apparatus may be so different that they can’t utter human sounds and vis-versa. (Covenant, Linden and Hile Troy I can accept as picking up “Landish” as a facet of their translation.) And The Giants do have the Gift of Tongues, yet they never seem to need it. Even the Bhrathair speak “Landish” which would be impossible given that they have had no contact with the Land, ever, that we know of. It would have been a nice touch (if a bit cumbersome) to have the Giants have to act as interpreters with them in TOT.
In Runes, I keep reading the character name as Jeriah, a character from Men in Hats.
Which is a bit jarring...
![Image](meninhats.com/images/jeriah.gif)
The spoiler tag is there for those who consider names spoilers...even though I wouldn't consider it a spoiler by any means.
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Jeremiah's
Which is a bit jarring...
![Image](meninhats.com/images/jeriah.gif)
The spoiler tag is there for those who consider names spoilers...even though I wouldn't consider it a spoiler by any means.
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I have always had a bit of a hard time with Kevin myself. But then again I had a hard time with Luke in Star Wars!
Names are so important to the character. Can you imagine Mhoram being named Jim instead. Or Saltheard Foamfollower being named "Terry"?
However, from dealing with some writers I know that sometimes a particular name has something to do with the inspiration and visualization of that character. Imagine writing a story and having to cast the character readers should dislike the most. You might choose the bully from when you where in school, or perhaps anyone that works at the DMV.
I have always felt the SRD did a particularily good job in his naming of characters and places (except for the aforementioned Kevin). Another author that I feel does a great job of naming things, people and places to instantly convey feeling is Terry Brooks.
I liked Drool Rockworm...was one of those things. Drool as in Mad, rock as in of the earth, and worm being of despicable character. All good points though.
Names are so important to the character. Can you imagine Mhoram being named Jim instead. Or Saltheard Foamfollower being named "Terry"?
However, from dealing with some writers I know that sometimes a particular name has something to do with the inspiration and visualization of that character. Imagine writing a story and having to cast the character readers should dislike the most. You might choose the bully from when you where in school, or perhaps anyone that works at the DMV.
I have always felt the SRD did a particularily good job in his naming of characters and places (except for the aforementioned Kevin). Another author that I feel does a great job of naming things, people and places to instantly convey feeling is Terry Brooks.
I liked Drool Rockworm...was one of those things. Drool as in Mad, rock as in of the earth, and worm being of despicable character. All good points though.
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