Your Least Favorite Genre
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Go ahead and bash, Dreaming. That's what this thread is for.
I just feel uneasy about the last part of your post. That seems to be a sweeping assumption to make. Could you explain what you mean by country music listeners and Donaldson readers being two distinct groups?
My impression is that it's really new country music that people here hate, not classic country.
But as far as why new country sucks, one name rises like a bad odor above the rest:
Garth Brooks

I just feel uneasy about the last part of your post. That seems to be a sweeping assumption to make. Could you explain what you mean by country music listeners and Donaldson readers being two distinct groups?
My impression is that it's really new country music that people here hate, not classic country.
But as far as why new country sucks, one name rises like a bad odor above the rest:
Garth Brooks


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Metal is a tricky beast. If you would've asked me in '94 if Tool was metal, I probably would have said yes (for example, look at the animated movie Heavy Metal. all the songs on that movie at the time were considered Metal. Now...). At that time all I would've had to go off of was Opiate and Undertow, so yeah, it would've been metal (not to mention that it was incredibly uncommon to hear Tool over public airwaves back then with the exception of Headbanger's Ball), even if I would've said it was fairly different than most metal. Now it's pretty obvious that Tool is only close to being metal in that it's Prog Metal, a rather different animal than most metal. And if you follow Tool's career, it's pretty obvious they're putting the progressive in prog metal to extensive use. With their next album (rumored some time around Oct. '05), I believe it will be incredibly difficult to label them as anything other than a really great band.Lord Foul wrote:Oh yes, there's always exceptions in every genre (like Tool, for example). Or is Tool metal? Correct me here, Syl?Dragonlily wrote:I like your description, Foul. Want to review music for me? But what I meant to say is, Queensryche seems to me to be an exception to the descriptions I'm hearing of metal. Queensryche actually seem intelligent.
Queensryche, though... not metal. IMO, they're only a few steps above 80s hair bands (you know how many times I had to hear girls gush over Sebastian Bach?) in that they have a fair measure of talent to go with their "sensitivity." Silent Lucidity is a good song, but metal it is not. Skid Row was more metal than that, and I wouldn't put them anywhere past hard rock (about a step below GnR, which is still hard rock). See also: Morrissey (often found among collections of Depeche Mode and The Cure - all good bands).
If you want insightful lyrics, yeah, first try out Tool. If you like Tool, seek out Dredg.
Metallica has some good stuff, but it's more along the lines of wisdom of the common man, their earlier stuff peppered with youthful enthusiasm. I challenge anyone here to listen to "Orion," though, and tell me that's not great music. If you don't find "For Whom the Bell Tolls," "Fade to Black," "Insanitarium," or even "Low Man's Lyric" moving in some way, there's no help for you.
Technically grunge, but anyone who dismisses Alice in Chains (or to a lesser extent, Jerry Cantrell) is missing out on a lot. All of Jar of Flies should be appreciated by everyone, as well as a couple tracks off of Sap and even their self-titled album.
Not all metal is good, and not all good metal is for everybody. It takes a fairly fierce spirit to enjoy it, and stylistically, it's too fast, loud, untraditional, and complicated for the average non-enthusiast to get into. Unless you're into the mindless thrashing (and I'd say the majority of metal is for nothing but that, but I'd still take it over the mindless pop that infests the public airwaves), metal is not for the lazy.
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True we are far better off without Hillary Duff, Ashlee Simpson, her sister and Olsen twins...oh yeah that Brittiney thing too...they actually market that skreeching as singing--amazing...Sunbanglasses wrote:Wuss Pop for the adolesent masses.


fall far and well Pilots!
I don't know what it's called, but I despise all the sensitive-guy stuff like John Mayer and Jason Mraz. Makes me want to claw my eyes out and stuff them in my ears.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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<shudder>
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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there is good country, No Depression, alt country, Americana...it goes by many names. stuff by Gillian Welch, Drive By Truckers, Allison Moorer, hayseed, Nickle Creek, Chris Thile, Alison Krauss, Flatlanders, Josh Ritter, Robert Earl Keen, Lyle Lovett, etc. two really good magazines to check out are Paste and No Depression. (Paste comes witha free cd every month)
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Heh heh heh....I feel the same way about MOST rap. "F**K the b**ch" repeated twenty seven times per minute does not a lovely musical experience make.....Cail wrote:I don't know what it's called, but I despise all the sensitive-guy stuff like John Mayer and Jason Mraz. Makes me want to claw my eyes out and stuff them in my ears.

Empress Cho hammers the KABC of Evil.
"If Ignorance is Bliss, Ann Coulter must be the happiest woman in the universe!"
Take that, you Varlet!

I'm not quite sure what "emo" is, but yeah, I couldn't stand the guy on the quad with a guitar, unless he was playing something cool. Starting in the 70s, I've just hated sensitive-guy music. Seals & Croft, Little River Band, Poco, then onto this new garbage.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Gotcha Jem....
...Oh, and thanks for making me feel OLD...
...Oh, and thanks for making me feel OLD...

"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Hey, better old than whining 
Edit: Here's some Emo lyrics for you
THIS RUINED PUZZLE
This ruined puzzle is beige with the pieces all face down
so the placing goes slowly.
The pictures of anything other than it's meant to be.
But the hours they creep,
the patterns repeat.
Don't be concerned, you know I'll be fine on my own.
I never said "don't go".
I've written a note,
it's pressed between pages
that you've marked to find your way back.
It says "Does he ever get the girl?"
But what if the pages stay pressed,
the chapters unfinished,
the stories too dull to unfold?
Does he ever get the girl?
This basement's a coffin
I'm buried alive.
I'll die in here just to be safe.
I'll die in here just to be safe.
'Cause you're gone
I get nothing
and you're off with barely a sigh.
I never said "Good-bye"
Does he ever get the girl?
-Dashboard Confessional

Edit: Here's some Emo lyrics for you
THIS RUINED PUZZLE
This ruined puzzle is beige with the pieces all face down
so the placing goes slowly.
The pictures of anything other than it's meant to be.
But the hours they creep,
the patterns repeat.
Don't be concerned, you know I'll be fine on my own.
I never said "don't go".
I've written a note,
it's pressed between pages
that you've marked to find your way back.
It says "Does he ever get the girl?"
But what if the pages stay pressed,
the chapters unfinished,
the stories too dull to unfold?
Does he ever get the girl?
This basement's a coffin
I'm buried alive.
I'll die in here just to be safe.
I'll die in here just to be safe.
'Cause you're gone
I get nothing
and you're off with barely a sigh.
I never said "Good-bye"
Does he ever get the girl?
-Dashboard Confessional
Start where you are,
use what you have,
do what you can.
use what you have,
do what you can.
Dear God that's horrible.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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I utterly despise Opera and Bluegrass.
More and more of today's country is older rock songs, just a country sound.
(And some rock is older country songs... George Thorogood (sp?) comes to mind)
IMO - Rap is crap. That is not singing.
ANYBODY can just speak the words and have back-up vocals
on every second or third word or so.
I can't sing worth a crap,
that's why instead I-gonna rap.
Yo, ho - come be my hunny and
watch me make lotsa money!
Wut's is not really downright - right
is I talk like dis, but I's really white.
Now don't git mad, I's just havin' fun,
'cuz we's all gotta live on this rock - live as ONE
Boom-shucka-boom-shucka-boom
(Took a whole three minutes to think of that one)
I listen to "classic" rock, "oldies" rock, some classical, some country, some techno (Hate disco though),
and even older stuff like swing music and big band sounds.
More and more of today's country is older rock songs, just a country sound.
(And some rock is older country songs... George Thorogood (sp?) comes to mind)
IMO - Rap is crap. That is not singing.
ANYBODY can just speak the words and have back-up vocals
on every second or third word or so.
I can't sing worth a crap,
that's why instead I-gonna rap.
Yo, ho - come be my hunny and
watch me make lotsa money!
Wut's is not really downright - right
is I talk like dis, but I's really white.
Now don't git mad, I's just havin' fun,
'cuz we's all gotta live on this rock - live as ONE
Boom-shucka-boom-shucka-boom
(Took a whole three minutes to think of that one)
I listen to "classic" rock, "oldies" rock, some classical, some country, some techno (Hate disco though),
and even older stuff like swing music and big band sounds.
Have you hugged your arghule today?
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"For millions of years
mankind lived just like the animals.
Then something happened
that unleashed the power of our imagination -
we learned to talk."
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If PRO and CON are opposites,
then the opposite of PROgress must be...
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It's 4:19...
gotta minute?
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"For millions of years
mankind lived just like the animals.
Then something happened
that unleashed the power of our imagination -
we learned to talk."
________________________________________
If PRO and CON are opposites,
then the opposite of PROgress must be...
_______________________________________
It's 4:19...
gotta minute?
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Add most of today's Country to that, and you have my list.Sunbaneglasses wrote:Gangsta rap, Death Metal, Wuss Pop for the adolesent masses.
Dandelion don't tell no lies
Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion
I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
a fate I don't deserve.
High priest of THOOOTP
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Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion
I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
a fate I don't deserve.
High priest of THOOOTP

* This post carries Jay's seal of approval