Unlikely that we will have another Star Trek movie or series

[Loredoctor]

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[Alynna Lis Eachann]

So I think it's, again, another example of the franchise getting a little bit tired.

What was his first clue??

All I can say is, thank god he finally wised up.

[dlbpharmd]

I think that new writers are needed - writers who are devoted fans, who are intimately familiar with ST history/lore and are commited to maintaining the continuity of the story. There can be life again, but the series badly needs new blood.

[matrixman]

Does this mean Berman and Braga are relinquishing creative control of Star Trek?

I definitely agree with Berman that Trek needs a rest, in terms of tv shows or feature films, anyway. Maybe a few years, maybe more.

I was just watching my ST: The Motion Picture DVD again last night. :Sigh: those were the glory days of Trek for me, heh. Back when Kirk was still in his prime and the crew still had slim waistlines, and the Enterprise was still a starship that looked like one.

[Edge]

Berman has a helluva nerve, considering that he and Brannon are directly responsible for the franchise's current sorry state.

Enterprise was cancelled because it was crap. It was crap because of B & B's loust scripts and bad direction. Because Enterprise was cancelled, the whole franchise is at risk.

How he can possibly talk about over-saturation, given the incredibly large and extremely zealous ST fan-base worldwide, just astonishes me.

[Nathan]

Deep Space Nine was my all-time favourite Series.

It had everything. A captain who knew what he was doing, antagonism between characters (Quark and Odo), the comedic duo (Julian and Miles), it had Worf!

And to top the whole thing off, an exciting storyline, carrying the universe forward on from where the next generation left off, and even tying in with voyager at some points if I remember correctly.

It was also the only Star Trek series without a character I disliked. The original had Kirk, Next generation had Wesley and Deanna, Voyager had Kes and, to a lesser extent, Neelix (always had an answer for everything) and Janeway (such an annoying voice and holier-than-thou attitude - "We must adhere to the Prime Directive") and enterprise has... Actually, I think the characters on Enterprise are damn good. Shame the stories were so contrived.

[Alynna Lis Eachann]

Actually, I think the characters on Enterprise are damn good. Shame the stories were so contrived.

You know, now that I think about it, you're right. There was some serious potential there (even with Archer, if someone else had played him). Most of the actors were decent, but the writing was worse than for Voyager, and I really never thought anyone could top that.

TOS, TNG & DS9 - that is all there is to my vision of Trek.

I got an email a few months ago in regards to a fanfic. The person called themselves a Trekkie... but was confused about the timeline I was writing in because it was pre-Enterprise. She wasn't familiar with TNG, and didn't realize that Enterprise was more of Berman's revisionism rather than pre-established canon. How can you call yourself a true Trek fan and not know that basic fact?

[Edge]

Actually, I think the characters on Enterprise are damn good. Shame the stories were so contrived.

You know, now that I think about it, you're right. There was some serious potential there (even with Archer, if someone else had played him). Most of the actors were decent, but the writing was worse than for Voyager, and I really never thought anyone could top that.

I completely agree. I can't find fault with any of the actors - I think even Bakula could have worked ok, with the right direction - after all, he was no worse than Shatner. The potential for great stories was there, too - even the 'time wars' debacle could have been interesting if handled well.

It was bad directing, and even worse writing, that killed it - no question.

I got an email a few months ago in regards to a fanfic. The person called themselves a Trekkie... but was confused about the timeline I was writing in because it was pre-Enterprise. She wasn't familiar with TNG, and didn't realize that Enterprise was more of Berman's revisionism rather than pre-established canon. How can you call yourself a true Trek fan and not know that basic fact?

[aTOMiC]

Good bye Mr. Berman.

I recently bought a dvd of First Contact (I had the vhs version for quite a while before I broke down and popped for the dvd). While watching FC for the hundredth time and then watching the special features I learned how close the writing team for the film came to ruining ST8. I like First Contact. There are moments in that film that affect me like no other previous or since. (Like when the Enterprise E flashes across the bow of the Defiant before Worf can ram the "little ship" into the Borg Cube. I thought "AH HAH. Now you're gonna get it!" Put a lump in my throat. I've said it before. I know a few of you don't agree but I say give the whole bloody thing to Jonathan Frakes. He seems to get what Star Trek ought to be. He may flop flat on his bearded face but he couldn't do any worse than the last bunch. I think Star Trek is in a hiatus that will only break when the planets re align back to their proper position. I'm not holding my breath. Frankly I feel like there hasn't been anything noteworthy from Star Trek in many years. I can't be sick of something I haven't paid any attention to since Jeri Ryan joined Voyager.

Cummins out.