The Absolute Worst Science Fiction Movies Ever Made

Post by **matrixman** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:16 pm

Okay, I think I kind of get it. Thanks, Warmark!

Post by **aTOMiC** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:34 pm

Warmark wrote:
Matrixman wrote:
aTOMiC wrote: I saw no need to remake Planet of the Apes and yet Hollywood gave it a shot. The remake wasn't bad but it wasn't particularly good either.
The remake didn't do much for me either. The ending baffled me. What did it mean?
I always thought that when he went into the time warp thing the main guy went forwards in time.
The ship , however, went backwards and the monkeys aboard then colonised the planet that the man would eventually land on.

I believe that is pretty clearly spelled out during the course of the film. I assumed Matrix's question was aimed toward the very end of the film after our hero foolishly leaves the girl and the world he has just helped save and tries to return to his own time. Of course he arrives back on earth at what would be present day and finds a world similar to what he expected but somehow altered to be populated by apes. The question that needs answering is this: Has the timeline been somehow corrupted producing this result? Was the Planet of the Apes truly an ancient or future Earth or another planet entirely? (Remember the story begins in orbit around Jupiter) Are we looking at an alternate reality? Dimension? A long time ago and galaxy far far away....
Burton seemed to intend there be the possibility of a sequel if the film performed well or he simply wanted a suprise ending to rival that of the original.
I don't know. Do you know?

Post by **dANdeLION** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:29 pm

I didn't think he went back to earth, I thought he went back to the Apes planet in it's future........damn I hate that ending!

Post by **Edge** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:32 pm

dANdeLION wrote:I didn't think he went back to earth, I thought he went back to the Apes planet in it's future.

Wasn't the apes' planet the Earth in the future?

Post by **I'm Murrin** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:34 pm

That's debatable. It could be earth in the future a la the original films. It could be an earth that was altered because of the monkeys on the ship. It could be another planet entirely that he mistakes for earth. It could be an alternate reality.

Post by **Warmark** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:51 pm

I am so confused.

Post by **danlo** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:19 pm

I'm glad I never watched it, then...

Post by **High Lord Tolkien** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:32 pm

No, the Ape's world had 2 or 3 moons didn't it?

Ok, I might have watched this stinker a few times

Estella Warren does.....things for me.

I never understood the ending either although I only watched it once because, well... there's no Estella is there?

Post by **High Lord Tolkien** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:05 pm

Since we're talking Planet of the Apes I thought you people might enjoy this.
I think it's amazingly funny!
Enjoy:

www.worldoflongmire.com/features/apes/apes.html

Post by **aTOMiC** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:57 pm

High Lord Tolkien wrote:Since we're talking Planet of the Apes I thought you people might enjoy this.
I think it's amazingly funny!
Enjoy:

www.worldoflongmire.com/features/apes/apes.html

I found that quite amusing indeed.

Post by **matrixman** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:22 pm

aTOMiC wrote: I assumed Matrix's question was aimed toward the very end of the film after our hero foolishly leaves the girl and the world he has just helped save and tries to return to his own time. Of course he arrives back on earth at what would be present day and finds a world similar to what he expected but somehow altered to be populated by apes. The question that needs answering is this: Has the timeline been somehow corrupted producing this result? Was the Planet of the Apes truly an ancient or future Earth or another planet entirely? (Remember the story begins in orbit around Jupiter) Are we looking at an alternate reality? Dimension? A long time ago and galaxy far far away....

Burton seemed to intend there be the possibility of a sequel if the film performed well or he simply wanted a suprise ending to rival that of the original.

Thanks, aTOMiC! Yeah, it was the very end of the movie that threw me. I'm not sure the end is any clearer, now that we've discussed it. If Burton intended to have a sequel to explain things, we probably won't get one now--and I don't think anyone is losing sleep over it. Hands up, anyone who wants a sequel?

And if Burton just wanted an ending to rival that of the original film, I don't think he succeeded. Very few films can match the great final moment of the original Planet of the Apes.

Post by **aTOMiC** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:48 pm

I agree with you Matrix. I doubt seriously that anyone was left salivating for a sequel. And I think we all agree with your comment about the impact the ending of the first film had. Almost as shocking as the final moments of the final episode of Newhart.

Post by **Sunbaneglasses** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:07 pm

The Core.

Post by **danlo** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:27 pm

If you're going to say The Core I'll counter with Armaggedon (which I fell asleep during, in the middle, at the theater). I haven't seen The Core but some people tell me it was good--it's based on (or many elements stolen from) an outstanding book called Earth by David Brin.

Post by **Edge** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:45 pm

If someone made a crap movie from David Brin's brilliant 'Earth'...

I hope Karma gets them good! Otherwise, I'll have to track them down myself!

Post by **aTOMiC** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:47 pm

I found the Core to be an entertaining but certainly not great film. I would not categorize it as a bad film in any way. Armaggedon was also neither great nor terrible and like the Core had a few charming moments. Bad films are generally just bad all around.

Post by **danlo** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:03 pm

Agreed, but some of the effects in Armaggedon were about as believable as Bronsnan's body not breaking in half when he hits the helicopter in the beginning of Goldeneye. The one-liners were pretty bad too. Con Air in space it wasn't...

AFLAC's acting (?) really stunk it up too!!!!!

Post by **theDespiser** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:46 am

what about that Ice Pirates flick?

and cmon...Buckaroo Bonzai sucked hardcore

Post by **Dragonlily** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:34 am

danlo wrote:I'll counter with Armaggedon (which I fell asleep during, in the middle, at the theater).

Then you must have missed the nauseating spinning section in the theater. Lucky you. If watched on the TV at home, that section of Armageddon is tolerable. Assuming you don't believe a real asteroid would be like that.

Post by **danlo** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:20 pm

The Despiser wrote:Buckaroo Bonzai sucked hardcore

--ah but that's it's charm!

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