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I'm not an idiot journalist, so I'd jump in and save him. Same thing if he was Clinton, Carter, Kennedy, or even Johnson. I still get angry every time I see footage of people getting killed or hurt when all the camera man had to do was put down the camera and help......
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But, wait...The Esmer wrote:yea, we could "taxidermitate" him and make a coffee table to put the book on!
Wouldn't he get bloated from being water-logged???
(And isn't the poor sap bloated enough??? Or is that just his policies?)
Besides, can you imagine that goofy grin looking up at you from the coffee table?
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Some of them are like that, and some really can do nothing but stand back and watch, like in this case: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4231020.stmdANdeLION wrote:I'm not an idiot journalist, so I'd jump in and save him. Same thing if he was Clinton, Carter, Kennedy, or even Johnson. I still get angry every time I see footage of people getting killed or hurt when all the camera man had to do was put down the camera and help......
On the whole, I admit to being very uncomfortable with the idea that somebody's out there taking pictures of people killing, dying and grieving when they could be helping, or at least giving people some privacy. Still, if nobody documents what humanity does to itself, we'll have so much less to remind us of our brutality. And we damned sure need some reminding. It's not on my conscience, standing by with the camera when others are suffering or dying, so if others can justify that to themselves, more power to them, I guess. What I really can't stand is the guys that try to make art out of it, or apply poetic symbolism to something that doesn't need words to describe it. Like this guy: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4245138.stm
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My mom started using digital about a year or more ago... She was holding on to film for as long as possible because she was very comfortable with it. Now I don't think she'd go back... she has much more creative control over the proofs when she can edit them as she pleases with Adobe. Also, film is extremely expensive when you have you buy it in such a large quantity. I think that only very few photographers still use film...Matrixman wrote:But would it necessarily have to be film? What about a digital camera? Do most professional photographers today still prefer to use film?
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Don't get me wrong, I love my digital camera and I've taken some spectacular shots with it, but I will give up my SLR when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.
There is an art to film photography that digital will never match. You have to know what you're doing to take good film photos. You have to be hyper-aware of light conditions, the speed of your subject, the angle of the shot, the mechanics of aperture and shutter interaction (heh, all the stuff I'm still weak on ), and you have to have patience. Sit in the same spot for two hours to snap ten frames, then have nine (or all!) of them come out marginal. Digital has an up on film in the economic and user-friendly departments, but for pure art's sake, I will always rely on film, no matter how cumbersome it is. It's like driving a carriage. There's no point these days, but when it's done right, it's damned impressive.
There is an art to film photography that digital will never match. You have to know what you're doing to take good film photos. You have to be hyper-aware of light conditions, the speed of your subject, the angle of the shot, the mechanics of aperture and shutter interaction (heh, all the stuff I'm still weak on ), and you have to have patience. Sit in the same spot for two hours to snap ten frames, then have nine (or all!) of them come out marginal. Digital has an up on film in the economic and user-friendly departments, but for pure art's sake, I will always rely on film, no matter how cumbersome it is. It's like driving a carriage. There's no point these days, but when it's done right, it's damned impressive.
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"Now if you remember all great paintings have an element of tragedy to them. Uh, for instance if you remember from last week, the unicorn was stuck on the aircraft carrier and couldn't get off. That was very sad. " - Kids in the Hall
"Now if you remember all great paintings have an element of tragedy to them. Uh, for instance if you remember from last week, the unicorn was stuck on the aircraft carrier and couldn't get off. That was very sad. " - Kids in the Hall
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I know, but how many times can you see the same thing repeated before you feel the need to elaborate?Lord Mhoram wrote:1. This is all a joke, and wasn't supposed to be a real discussion on photography.
"We probably could have saved ourselves, but we were too damned lazy to try very hard... and too damn cheap." - Kurt Vonnegut
"Now if you remember all great paintings have an element of tragedy to them. Uh, for instance if you remember from last week, the unicorn was stuck on the aircraft carrier and couldn't get off. That was very sad. " - Kids in the Hall
"Now if you remember all great paintings have an element of tragedy to them. Uh, for instance if you remember from last week, the unicorn was stuck on the aircraft carrier and couldn't get off. That was very sad. " - Kids in the Hall
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i don't know, lets try it!
Alynna Lis Eachann wrote:I know, but how many times can you see the same thing repeated before you feel the need to elaborate?Lord Mhoram wrote:1. This is all a joke, and wasn't supposed to be a real discussion on photography.
Alynna Lis Eachann wrote:I know, but how many times can you see the same thing repeated before you feel the need to elaborate?Lord Mhoram wrote:1. This is all a joke, and wasn't supposed to be a real discussion on photography.
Alynna Lis Eachann wrote:I know, but how many times can you see the same thing repeated before you feel the need to elaborate?Lord Mhoram wrote:1. This is all a joke, and wasn't supposed to be a real discussion on photography.
Alynna Lis Eachann wrote:I know, but how many times can you see the same thing repeated before you feel the need to elaborate?Lord Mhoram wrote:1. This is all a joke, and wasn't supposed to be a real discussion on photography.
Alynna Lis Eachann wrote:I know, but how many times can you see the same thing repeated before you feel the need to elaborate?Lord Mhoram wrote:1. This is all a joke, and wasn't supposed to be a real discussion on photography.
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I haven't heard of anyone being 'hailed as a forager'. But if I'm breaking the law just by being there, I'm already running that risk. So why not go whole hog and break YOUR rules, too?sgtnull wrote:actually VF, if an evac had been ordered, you may be breaking the law by staying in town. may be shot as a looter, or hailed as a forager, depending on your race.
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Hmm. How about if I A) Save him, B) Throw some other sucker in the river, C) Film him in glorious Black & White.Lord Mhoram wrote:2. For all those who said you'd save him: Sorry, but you've a) broken the rules (it wasn't an option) and are b) unethical.
Dandelion don't tell no lies
Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion
I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
a fate I don't deserve.
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Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion
I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
a fate I don't deserve.
High priest of THOOOTP
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Then you'd be guilty of murder, instead of just feeling guilty for not saving the guy in the first place.
"We probably could have saved ourselves, but we were too damned lazy to try very hard... and too damn cheap." - Kurt Vonnegut
"Now if you remember all great paintings have an element of tragedy to them. Uh, for instance if you remember from last week, the unicorn was stuck on the aircraft carrier and couldn't get off. That was very sad. " - Kids in the Hall
"Now if you remember all great paintings have an element of tragedy to them. Uh, for instance if you remember from last week, the unicorn was stuck on the aircraft carrier and couldn't get off. That was very sad. " - Kids in the Hall
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I meant the rule saying that I couldn't save him.
Anyway, I'm not surprised at CNN or the major newspaper chains. Surveys repeatedly show that about 90% of U.S. journalists are registered Democrats. And journalists tend to be the sort of Democrats who take it as an article of faith that racism is exclusively a Republican disease, and are therefore utterly blind to it in themselves.
Too often, our worst faults are the ones we believe ourselves immune to.
Anyway, I'm not surprised at CNN or the major newspaper chains. Surveys repeatedly show that about 90% of U.S. journalists are registered Democrats. And journalists tend to be the sort of Democrats who take it as an article of faith that racism is exclusively a Republican disease, and are therefore utterly blind to it in themselves.
Too often, our worst faults are the ones we believe ourselves immune to.
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