Loremaster wrote:Most of science in the Gap is well researched, there are some errors (though more the fault of an advisor than SRD's) - the Singularity grenades, singularities forming due to gravitational interaction, Beckman's plans, the nature of the mutagen . . .
i'm sure you're correct about there being errors in some of the science but it was completely CONVINCING to me (who is NOT a scientist), meaning Donaldson made the science plausible and easily understandable to a lay person like myself. usually, in hard sci-fi, i find myself either out of my depth or unconvinced. sometimes things just seem so absurd as to be unbelivable which takes me out of the story. unable to suspend my disbelief, as it were. neither of these things happened to me while reading the Gap. and that is one of the MAJOR reasons i'm posting in THIS PARTICULAR thread!!!
I LOVE THE GAP!!!
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
Loremaster wrote:Most of science in the Gap is well researched, there are some errors (though more the fault of an advisor than SRD's) - the Singularity grenades, singularities forming due to gravitational interaction, Beckman's plans, the nature of the mutagen . . .
i'm sure you're correct about there being errors in some of the science but it was completely CONVINCING to me (who is NOT a scientist), meaning Donaldson made the science plausible and easily understandable to a lay person like myself. usually, in hard sci-fi, i find myself either out of my depth or unconvinced. sometimes things just seem so absurd as to be unbelivable which takes me out of the story. unable to suspend my disbelief, as it were. neither of these things happened to me while reading the Gap. and that is one of the MAJOR reasons i'm posting in THIS PARTICULAR thread!!!
I LOVE THE GAP!!!
Well said!
Fist & Faith wrote:Come on, Lucimay, get off the fence! Do you like the Gap, or not?? Make a decision, for cryin' out loud!!
LOL
Waddley wrote:your Highness Sir Dr. Loredoctor, PhD, Esq, the Magnificent, First of his name, Second Cousin of Dragons, White-Gold-Plate Wielder!
Fist and Faith wrote:Come on, Lucimay, get off the fence! Do you like the Gap, or not?? Make a decision, for cryin' out loud!!
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
Fist and Faith wrote:
I, alas, have stopped reading The Gap. I read halfway through the 2nd book, and just don't want to read any more of Morn's pain and horror. It may be SRD's greatest exploration of what a human can go through, but I don't want to go through any more of it. There's, what, three and half more books of it? No thanks!
I replied yesterday to a post by CovenantJr that was rudely deleted by hackers, and can't remember exactly what I said the first time around.
Yes, the series is dark and brutal. It doesn't get easier. But it's worth it. You made it through TRS - don't give up now!
Oh, a change is coming, feel these doors now closing
Is there no world for tomorrow, if we wait for today?
CovenantJr wrote: I said "The middle of the second book is where it starts to get really good".
do you mean that you didnt like the first book and a half or that its a bit of an emotional struggle. i havnt finished the series yet but i cant pick between the first three. i thought the first one was very graphic and harsh but because of that i was completely engrosed and couldnt put the blighter down.
i had to read on and find out what happened. im surprised anyone wouldnt.
It'd take you a long time to blow up or shoot all the sheep in this country, but one diseased banana...could kill 'em all.
I may have already said this, but I utterly despised The Real Story. Having said that, I think The Gap is the best thing SRD has written.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Cail wrote:I may have already said this, but I utterly despised The Real Story. Having said that, I think The Gap is the best thing SRD has written.
I think that's what prompted me to go on to FK - it was such heinous treatment for Morn I had to go on and find out if Nick did better by her. Unfortunately not. However, a lot of it was of her own doing....
"Right away would be good. Right now would be better"
-- Nick Succorso OK, so what's the speed of dark?- Larry the Cable Guy
and I have said this before, I loved The Real Story --- knowing it was book one of a series, it was the perfect, dark horrible beginning to a great series. I had a hard time stomaching the cruelty of it, but understood it, and knoew that SRD was not using druelty for the sake of it.
This may be why I still to this day, have a hard time beleiving Angus is a 'good' character in any social sense. He is a great interesting character for the purpose of the novel, but I never 'felt' for him, or sympthized with him at all....
I liked the books in this order:
2
1
5
3
4
~...with a floating smile and a light blue sponge...~
CovenantJr wrote: I said "The middle of the second book is where it starts to get really good".
do you mean that you didnt like the first book and a half or that its a bit of an emotional struggle.
I enjoyed the Real Story, and though it was horrible, it didn't faze me. I certainly didn't find it a struggle. The beginning of FK was more developed, but less compelling. I had to force myself through the non-events of the first half. Not a criticism, just an observation. The second half of FK is where the sheer scale of the expanding plot began to make itself known, and consequently that is the point at which the Gap stopped being "enjoyable enough but not that special" and became special.
i see. i read the real story inside two days and could hardly put it down. i agree about FK though by the way. it was quite repetative at times. i think maybe because im still reading it, its harder to differentiate between the books. ill have a more rounded view when im finished.
It'd take you a long time to blow up or shoot all the sheep in this country, but one diseased banana...could kill 'em all.
CovenantJr wrote:The second half of FK is where the sheer scale of the expanding plot began to make itself known, and consequently that is the point at which the Gap stopped being "enjoyable enough but not that special" and became special.
My sentiments exactly.
Waddley wrote:your Highness Sir Dr. Loredoctor, PhD, Esq, the Magnificent, First of his name, Second Cousin of Dragons, White-Gold-Plate Wielder!
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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No thanks!
