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Before rock, there were crooners. After rock, there are a few left.

Crooners are my favorite vocalists, and represent one of my favorite pop music genres. The crooners I like the most are, obviously, Sinatra and probably the greatest, Bing Crosby. I cannot decide which is better however.

Sinatra had perhaps the better phrasing and breathing control. He had a real dark side to him - it wasn't all "Come Fly With Me." He cut some darker albums - "Sings for Only the Lonely," "Nobody Cares," and my favorite, "Where Are You?" Not surprisingly, they're the lesser-known of his albums, but "Where Are You?" which is all torch songs, is a real masterpiece, in my opinion. Still, aside from the torch albums, one of my favorite Sinatra recordings remains "At the Sands," which saw him at the top of his game, in my opinion. He and the Rat Pack really owned Vegas in the late '60s, thanks in part to mob connections I suppose, and his voice was at its peak. One of my favorite concerts of all-time, no doubt.

As for Bing, he was probably the coolest singer ever. People call him a baritone, but I sing in a chorus as a bass, and he sounds more like a bass to me, the way his voice sinks down an octave, and sort of glides back up. I really like his jazz recordings, or his work with the Andrews Sisters ("Don't Fence Me In") and I have a song he did with Les Paul called "It's Been a Long, Long Time" which is excellent. He really defined American standards, and without him I have no idea where pop music would be today. And of course, there's the essential Christmas duet with Bowie.

As for modern crooners, Bryan Ferry is obviously a great one. He really coos on his songs, and when he plays with Roxy Music you can't always hear his voice well live as a result. I love the way it shudders. :) To further affirm his crooner status, he's done a bunch of cover albums performing old songs, some as far back as the Bing era. My favorite of his covers is "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes," a true classic that he does more than justice to. Of course, what sets him apart from, say, Sinatra, is his ability to write music. Albums like "For Your Pleasure," "Country Life," "Roxy Music," and "Boys & Girls" are simply amazing.

I read a review of a Morrissey album in Rolling Stone last year. They described him as slowly evolving into a "British New Wave version of Sinatra." The more I think about it and watch him, the more I think it's true. His vocal style, especially as he's aged, really emulates the crooners. He too writes phenomenal music like Ferry (he's a far better lyricist).

Ferry and Morrissey echo the crooners onstage as well. They go up there with their lounge jackets, outstretch their hands to the crowds, accent phrases with hand gestures, and grip their mic chords in a Sinatra-esque way.

Which crooners do you like?
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Love Morrissey and Ferry, also like to listen, sometimes, to Harry Connick Jr. and his Orchestra and Elvis Costello with his Songs of Spain.
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Ohhh, good call with Costello. He really got into that style later in his career didn't he?
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yes, Frankie Valli is God too but he's more of a high pitch guy rather than a crooner :P
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I really like Sinatra and Tony Bennett. I have the Sinatra and Count Basie CD, it's awesome.
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Frankie, Dino, Gene Vincent, Johnny Ray.

There's a new guy out, Michael Bubee(?). He's got a great voice.
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Bing Crosby's younger brother Bob did alot of work with Tommy Dorsey. Bing definately has the better voice but Bob is no slouch. Those who like Bing should check him out.
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Cail,

Hey I've heard of Gene Vincent. I thought he was a rockabilly guy though?
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Yeah, I guess technically he is rockabilly, but I'm thinking of his softer side.
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Oh, not diminishing the choice or anything. I've never heard any of his music, but I've always thought of him that way. I'll check him out sometime.
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yes...Chet Baker was a trumpet player...but have you ever heard him sing? his My Funny Valentine is the definitive version.



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Looks like Charlie Sexton.

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Cail wrote:
There's a new guy out, Michael Bubee(?). He's got a great voice.
It's Buble (I think it's pronounced Bueblay)

He's really good.

I have a problem with Frank Sinatra though.
Several of his songs are awesome, my all time favorites.
Unfortunately he has a catalog of like 7 billion songs! and most of them really suck so....... :D

I've been checking out the Rat Pack recently.
Dean Martin.....seriously, is he a respected singer or was he a goof, an inside joke of some kind?
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John Jonethis

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a very smooth singer. my favorite crooner.

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Sinatra, Sammy Davis, Jr, Harry Connick, Bobby Darin, Mel Torme....

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