"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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that sound just digs into my brain like a parasite!
Hey! I think Delores has an amazing voice! I love The Cranberries.
I'll have to accept that this is one of those cases where for example one person just loves spinach and the next one can't stand to be near enough to smell the stuff let alone eat it.
If everyone felt the same way I do about the cranberries they wouldn't have a single moment of recorded music and "Delores" would have been forced to sign a legal document forbidding her from uttering anything within 150 miles of the nearest microphone.
Live and let live. To each his own and by the way I still like Boston's first two albums.
"If you can't tell the difference, what difference does it make?"
dANdeLION wrote:ZZ Top wasn't big until they sold out, and that Hendrix quote (I.E. - Reporter: "How's it like being the best guitar player in the world?" Hendrix "I don't know; why don't you ask so-and-so?") has been used many times to describe many of Jendrix's 'favorite' musicians....
How's it like being the best KW poster?
Heh, I don't know; why don't you ask Spoiler
so-and-so
?
Dandelion don't tell no lies
Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion
I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
a fate I don't deserve.
dANdeLION wrote:ZZ Top wasn't big until they sold out, and that Hendrix quote (I.E. - Reporter: "How's it like being the best guitar player in the world?" Hendrix "I don't know; why don't you ask so-and-so?") has been used many times to describe many of Jendrix's 'favorite' musicians....
How's it like being the best KW poster?
Heh, I don't know; why don't you ask Spoiler
so-and-so
?
We could turn this into an ABC game: How's it like being the best KW poster?
Heh, I don't know; why don't you ask ABC
Waddley wrote:your Highness Sir Dr. Loredoctor, PhD, Esq, the Magnificent, First of his name, Second Cousin of Dragons, White-Gold-Plate Wielder!
"It is not the literal past that rules us, save, possibly, in a biological sense. It is images of the past. Each new historical era mirrors itself in the picture and active mythology of its past or of a past borrowed from other cultures. It tests its sense of identity, of regress or new achievement against that past.”
-George Steiner
Even though I can't stand him, Eminem is very good.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Rappers aren't rappers if they don't reference themselves in the majority of their songs. So far, at least, Eminem doesn't have a song that consists of "Em - In - Em -
Em - In - Em
Eminem mother****ers" (repeat for about 3 minutes)
"It is not the literal past that rules us, save, possibly, in a biological sense. It is images of the past. Each new historical era mirrors itself in the picture and active mythology of its past or of a past borrowed from other cultures. It tests its sense of identity, of regress or new achievement against that past.”
-George Steiner
But I love Public Enemy and Digital Underground. Those guys were geniuses.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
Syl wrote:Rappers aren't rappers if they don't reference themselves in the majority of their songs. So far, at least, Eminem doesn't have a song that consists of "Em - In - Em -
Em - In - Em
Eminem mother****ers" (repeat for about 3 minutes)
He doesn't just reference himself - the songs are about him.
Waddley wrote:your Highness Sir Dr. Loredoctor, PhD, Esq, the Magnificent, First of his name, Second Cousin of Dragons, White-Gold-Plate Wielder!
PM Dawn is not rap. Hip hop, certainly, but not rap.
With you on P.E. and Digital Underground, Cail.
LM, name one rapper post Tupac that doesn't talk about himself or his crew more often than not. It's a very egocentric (and I don't use the term negatively) art form.
"It is not the literal past that rules us, save, possibly, in a biological sense. It is images of the past. Each new historical era mirrors itself in the picture and active mythology of its past or of a past borrowed from other cultures. It tests its sense of identity, of regress or new achievement against that past.”
-George Steiner
I guess modern rap is largely annoying - for me. However, earlier rap was less egocentric: Ice T, Run DMC, Public Enemy, NWA, etc.
The point I am getting at, is that it's not really creative to sing about tension with parents, how life was hard before rap, etc etc. It's as though they are creating characters out of themselves and thus reference themselves to give legitimacy to their work and for their fans. Sure Eminem is creative - his wordplay ability is astounding - just that there is too much about himself as an 'icon' or 'character'.
Waddley wrote:your Highness Sir Dr. Loredoctor, PhD, Esq, the Magnificent, First of his name, Second Cousin of Dragons, White-Gold-Plate Wielder!
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
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I'll have to accept that this is one of those cases where for example one person just loves spinach and the next one can't stand to be near enough to smell the stuff let alone eat it. 
