So......when does Nom come back into the picture?

[Creator]

That means - if nom was sucessful undoing their prison - a sandgorgon could not answer a call.

[High Lord Tolkien]

Bump.

This was in the latest batch of GI responses:

Nom's ability to answer Covenant's summons to Revelstone was a function of Kasreyn's magic in creating Sandgorgons Doom; it was not a power inherent to the Sandgorgons.

Does anyone else feel that this is an example of poor writing on SRD's part?
Or too high expectation on mine?

Was this answer actually in the book but we all missed it or didn't understand it (like why Vain had to be struck by the One Tree)?
Or did he make it up for the GI?

[Creator]

Bump.

This was in the latest batch of GI responses:

Nom's ability to answer Covenant's summons to Revelstone was a function of Kasreyn's magic in creating Sandgorgons Doom; it was not a power inherent to the Sandgorgons.

Does anyone else feel that this is an example of poor writing on SRD's part?
Or too high expectation on mine?

Was this answer actually in the book but we all missed it or didn't understand it (like why Vain had to be struck by the One Tree)?
Or did he make it up for the GI?

I recall it was the "one flaw" in his perfect magic. The summoning was by Kasreyn's design. Now, one wonders what powers Nom has from consuming the shards of the Raver!!

[finn]

Heh, this is difficult to explain properly... Imagine something like this:

[Doom] [Bhrathairealm] [Ocean] [Lower Land] [Landsdrop] [Upper Land] [Revelstone]

Now, this is the journey a normal human would have to do in order to get from Sandgorgons' Doom to Revelstone. When a Sandgorgon is summoned, it not only travels at inhuman speed, it also contracts this journey into, say:

[Doom][skip][skip][Lower Land][skip][skip][Revelstone]

Whereas "Skip" means that, for the Sandgorgon, those parts of the journey simply do not exist. An outside observer would see a Sandgorgon start from the Doom at terrible speed, and soon be out of sight; if he could follow the Sandgorgon from an outside perspective through the whole journey, he would probably see the Sandgorgon running at terrible speed over the ocean, translating from Lower to Upper Land in the blink of an eye, and slowing down its speed gradually as it approaches Revelstone (while from the Sandgorgon's perspectiv the fabric of space is "stretched" again to its normal length).

It's in a way similar to taking a sheet of paper and tracing a line from edge to edge (normal travel from one edge to another) or folding it in two until the two edges meet and tracing a "line" from one to the other (a Sandgorgon's travel).

Sort of like, entering a caesure-exiting a caesure....?

[Nom vs. Vain]

Putting aside the argument of how Nom would get to the Land... Who rather would accompany him? Giants? Ravers? More Sandgorgans? The Bratharian People... As far as the way that Nom gets to the land I'm sure the oceans wouldn't be a problem, he is equipped with gill like slits, and now I'm sure that if nothing else he could "tie his feet to a couple of 'worms decendent of the worm of the worlds end' and ride them clear to tortuga"... I mean the Land... hah...