The Reason Berek and Covenant are one in the same...

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You think it's plausible?

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variol son wrote:Powerful because he was one of the dead, powerful in his own right as the founder of Kevin's Lore, and inhanced by the Illearth Stone. I'm surprised Elena lasted as long as she did.

Also, just realized that Covenant can't be Berek because he saw dead Berek when all the dead Lords appeared in the throne hall of Foul's Creche at the end of The Power that Preserves.
Yep. You'd think he would have recognized himself.
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Well you woud think so at any rate..... :LOLS:
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A Gunslinger wrote:
variol son wrote:Powerful because he was one of the dead, powerful in his own right as the founder of Kevin's Lore, and inhanced by the Illearth Stone. I'm surprised Elena lasted as long as she did.

Also, just realized that Covenant can't be Berek because he saw dead Berek when all the dead Lords appeared in the throne hall of Foul's Creche at the end of The Power that Preserves.
Yep. You'd think he would have recognized himself.
Sometimes I wonder if people read my posts at all :P
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Post by variol son »

Whoops! :?

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You do not hear, and so you cannot be redeemed.

In the name of their ancient pride and humiliation, they had made commitments with no possible outcome except bereavement.

He knew only that they had never striven to reject the boundaries of themselves.
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Xar wrote:
A Gunslinger wrote:
variol son wrote:Powerful because he was one of the dead, powerful in his own right as the founder of Kevin's Lore, and inhanced by the Illearth Stone. I'm surprised Elena lasted as long as she did.

Also, just realized that Covenant can't be Berek because he saw dead Berek when all the dead Lords appeared in the throne hall of Foul's Creche at the end of The Power that Preserves.
Yep. You'd think he would have recognized himself.
Sometimes I wonder if people read my posts at all :P
Or mine. ;)

Heh, i've said this before but, TC = Berek is one of the worst endings imaginable.
But if you're all about the destination, then take a fucking flight.
We're going nowhere slowly, but we're seeing all the sights.
And we're definitely going to hell, but we'll have all the best stories to tell.


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I think that, as I have said, that SRD is way to wily to reach so deep into the bag of cliche's and pull out TC=Berek.
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Post by Buckarama »

Xar and Warmark, you guys post alot here then? :)
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Post by Nom vs. Vain »

yes... i guess I forgot how Saltheart laughing foul into spermazoa was such a fabulous ending....
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which men miscall their lives:
for all the scents of green things growing,
each breath is but an exhalation of the grave.
Boddies jerk like puppet corpses,
and hell walks laughing---
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Post by Xar »

Nom vs. Vain wrote:yes... i guess I forgot how Saltheart laughing foul into spermazoa was such a fabulous ending....
Oh no, not this discussion again! :P Didn't we already eviscerate it?
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Post by spacemonkey »

oooooh,eviscerations is it!!! Reall cool!!
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Post by Mr. Milton Milquetoast »

hahahaha
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Post by Fist and Faith »

You know, it occurs to me that Covenant saw Berek with all the dead Lords at the end of TPTP. He never mentioned that he and Berek looked alike.

























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Post by Chuchichastli »

So who voted 'yes', then? Come on, own up. If you dare... :lol:
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Post by Mr. Milton Milquetoast »

Well, he didn't say he was going to call Nom to Revelstone either. As far as seeing Berek with the dead, he may have seen himself in an unrecognizable form. Or recognized his future but did not say anything. But remember in Lord Foul's Bane his unbelief extended to him not being Berek re-incarnate as EVERYONE in the land suggested. Even a sixteen year old girl who had only heard stories about Berek recognized him immediately as the Lord Fatherer. Also with Elena he is a Lord Fatherer. Riddle me this how did the people of the land know of the white gold when it did not exist in their world?

Covenant and Berek are one.

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I'm going to back away slowly from this thread before I bite somebody's head off :P
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Xar wrote:I'm going to back away slowly from this thread before I bite somebody's head off :P
:lol:
But if you're all about the destination, then take a fucking flight.
We're going nowhere slowly, but we're seeing all the sights.
And we're definitely going to hell, but we'll have all the best stories to tell.


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Xar wrote:I'm going to back away slowly from this thread before I bite somebody's head off :P
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Post by Mr. Milton Milquetoast »

Oh My, Mr. Milquetoast has asked a question that can't be answered, so the attacks begin eh?? Imagine a virual beheading of someone as meek and mild as Milton Milquetoast. Wouldn't it be easier to respond to the question without threats?

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Post by Mr. Milton Milquetoast »

From dead Covenant to Linden "Look for me, but remember I'm dead."

Covenant is Berek.

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Post by Buckarama »

I have been thinking about this and that's always a scary thing. The biggest reason for me that this doesn't work is that it would be so obvious. It would be like pointing at a red square for 10 books then at the end he says, "Look! It's a red square!"

It just doesn't work for me.
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