New Dr Who

Post by **Chassit** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:16 pm

Queeaqueg wrote:Tennant over performs in all of them. I think the other guy was beter.

I do too. This guy just seems too... young to be the Doctor.

Post by **Chassit** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:23 pm

[Edit: sorry-- can't get used to this double-posting taboo thingie... oops...]

A Gunslinger wrote:
SoulQuest1970 wrote:I just saw the new episodes on Friday on Scifi. Lore, I think he is adorable! I suppose it is all a matter of taste. I like both of the new doctors. They are just different, but that is the point of the show. I have only seen "The Christmas Invasion" and "New Earth," but I enjoyed them both very much. I recorded them and spent the weekend watching them over and over... Alex joined me. Even Nick, who up to now had no interest, enjoyed it and said, "He is goofy!" lol I bought the first series on dvd and we watched it yesterday too and Nick thought that doctor was goofy too.
I have not seen any of these... am only familiar with the Drs-Who from about 1990 on back. Have there ever been any female Dr.s?

No, no, no, the Doctor can't ever be female! It just wouldn't be believable!

Of course, if I had my way, the Doctor would be Tom Baker with his scarf and endless supply of jelly babies and his quick wit, and he'd never regenerate-- he'd always be Tom Baker.

A Gunslinger wrote:There should be feamle Dr.s ....why not?

It just wouldn't be him. It would be like making Seven of Nine male... yuch.

SoulQuest1970 wrote:They would have to be female Time Lords! Romana was one. Now the Doctor is the only one left though. I have to wonder, because Romana was left in E space. Maybe he isn't the only one left. Hmmm....

I forgot all about Romana! Hmm, maybe she'll come back... that could be interesting.

Post by **Queeaqueg** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:01 pm

We have to deal with all the spin-offs now. A show called Torchwood has started with a old Dr Who character Capitan Jack in charge on the place. It is very gory.

Post by **Chassit** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:11 pm

Queeaqueg wrote:We have to deal with all the spin-offs now. A show called Torchwood has started with a old Dr Who character Capitan Jack in charge on the place. It is very gory.

I guess it'll be awhile before we get it over here... darn.

Post by **Phantasm** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:29 pm

Queeaqueg wrote:We have to deal with all the spin-offs now. A show called Torchwood has started with a old Dr Who character Capitan Jack in charge on the place. It is very gory.

I thought the shagging in the toilet was a nice touch though

Post by **Loredoctor** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:43 am

Chassit wrote:No, no, no, the Doctor can't ever be female! It just wouldn't be believable!

I agree. But word of advice if you ever say that on a Doctor Who forum - you'll be flamed in a nasty way. Happened to me. I was giving a lecture on how to use logic in arguments.

Post by **matrixman** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:22 am

Well, so far I'm still liking the Tennant era.

Loremaster wrote:Sorry, but I find Tennant's portrayal uncomfortable. He comes off more as a time traveller from the 21st century than an alien time lord. Listen to his silly pop culture quotes throughout the season (like the Kylie Minogue one that comes up). Plus, the drunk scene in The Girl in The Fireplace gets my vote as the worst scene ever filmed in Dr Who history. No exaggeration.

That drunk scene did not bother me at all. Good episode, too. I guess we're starting to diverge in our opinion of the show (and of Tennant).

As to the pop culture references, well, I did catch Tennant mentioning "Bluetooth" technology in the Cybermen episode I just watched. Does that count? Anyway, that didn't bother me, but I can understand how annoying it must be to have Kylie Minogue immortalized in Doctor Who dialogue.

But never mind Minogue...my question after watching the episode about Queen Victoria and the werewolf was: why should an alien time lord feel so deferential towards a mere human queen? Because it's a British show. That and because the Doctor is supposed to be a proper gentleman, of course. But that deference does say something about how we view our heroes, doesn't it? (Whether real or fictional.) They are heroes not just because they "do good," but because they respect the laws of "our" land and "our" leaders. Just as in America Superman is always deferential to the President, so in Britain the Doctor bows before the Queen.

Post by **sindatur** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:22 pm

But, it's not just the Queen, or the PM that the Dr. gives that respect to, it's any "royalty", including sometimes enemies, until they give him a reason to disrespect them. He was very respectful of the female PM, until she pulled the Torchwood out of her hat, and then he gave her a "what for". I've just watched Ep 7 (The Idiot's Lantern) and I am greatly enjoying Tennant's portrayal (But, then I didn't hate Colin Baker either, so...).

Post by **Queeaqueg** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:08 pm

I thought I would give the Doctor who spin-off, Torchwood another try. I watched it and again I thought it was rubbish. Doctor Who is good because it is for all the family with fun, fantasy like stories and monsters for the kids but with serious side with good stories for adults. But Torchwood(claiming to be the 'Doctor Who' for adults) seems to take away all the fun side to Doctor Who and just feels it with blood, swearing and sex. It just becomes dark and boring.

Post by **Phantasm** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:11 pm

Put my stupid hat on - just realised that Torchwood is an anagram of Doctor Who.

( I did miss a couple of episodes of Dr Who, so maybe I missed that bit - doh!)

Post by **Nav** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:51 am

Yeah, Torchwood was the code word they used while they were developing the new series of Doctor Who and they worked it into an idea one of the writers was already playing around with.

I finally got around to watching the new Doctor Who series fairly recently and I thought they were good, but it just isn't the same show that I remember from being a kid. Torchwood on the other hand, I really like and I honestly don't know why. It's basically Doctor Who with added sex, violence and bad language, which as about as incongruous a mix as it sounds. Some of the new characters are strong and developing nicely (Gwen and Owen) and Captain Jack is harbouring a dark secret and is generally much broodier and badass than he was in Doctor Who. I do feel that they are trying too hard with Jack though and are overstating a lot of their points. He's a time-travelling omnisexual who doesn't sleep and can't die, that's an interesting character right there, and yet every episode has panoramic shot of him standing on the roof of a very tall building to demonstrate that he's a bit of a broody loner.

Torchwood isn't perfect, but for some reason I'm hooked on it, whereas the last two series' of Doctor Who I could take or leave.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:03 am

Nav wrote:Torchwood isn't perfect, but for some reason I'm hooked on it, whereas the last two series' of Doctor Who I could take or leave.

Thanks for your review, Nav.

I am of the same feeling about the latest Dr Who series. I really don't feel like watching the next series, since Tennant's season was largely rubbish.

Post by **Queeaqueg** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:46 am

Captain Jack is harbouring a dark secret and is generally much broodier and badass than he was in Doctor Who

He is gay? Nah,

Spoiler

It is something to do with that Glove. One of the characters died and the brought her back. She said that she saw darkness but not endless nothing... that something moves in the darkness. That what Jack saw when he died in the Doctor Who series. God knows what moves in the darkness when you die, though

Post by **Loredoctor** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:12 pm

Something tells me one of my brothers is going to give me the season two boxset for christmas.

Post by **Queeaqueg** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:18 pm

The Christmas special is coming up The Runaway Bride, looks like a laugh.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:29 am

Queeaqueg wrote:The Christmas special is coming up The Runaway Bride, looks like a laugh.

Let me know what it is like, Queea.

Post by **Phantasm** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:41 pm

Can't wait for the Christmas special.

Post by **taraswizard** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:06 pm

A whole lot of the following can be found on Ahiras Hangar Manifold OK, ya'all know I'm a Dr. Who fan, too, and I somtimes attend a local group that is solely dedicated to the adventures of Chroniicles of Who. In general my feelings about the new Who series are very positive, I have slight preference for Eccleston, IMO he has a bit more gravitas than Tennant (Connery's Bond as compared to Moore's Bond to get an idea of what I mean), but even that opinion is not carved in stone. My comments concern Doomsday, and I liked the episode, alot, thinking it well written and having a consistent story, the final episode of season 2 from the UK, shown in the UK eary summer of 2006 and shown on SciFi Cable on Friday Dec. 23. The comments are spoilery, very spoilery

The first tme I'd watched the episode was on SciFi cable on Dec. 23, and it's

Spoiler

Billie Piper's last regular appearance as Rose Tyler

. However, before it's airing and

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I'd read how trite, maudlin, sappy and over emotional the episode was

. Well, many of those comments are correct; however, most who made those comments made them for the wrong reasons, therefore their comments are wrong.

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These commenters have all said how wrong and counter to the traditions of Dr. Who for the companion to openly profess 'love' for the Doctor and how equally counter to those traditions it is for the Doctor to reciporcate. IOW, their issues really are only concerned with the final scene where Rose utters through a torrent of sobs "Doctor, I love you" and an equally emotional but dried eyed Doctor is cut off before his reciprocable statement can be made.

However, the episode issues really are centered on a much deeper level than a few lines of sappy dialogue.

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Consider the ending it's an example of puerile, infantilized, wish fullfilment for Rose Tyler, her mum and dad are back together, she goes back to being Micki's g/f. Remember from Rose, she only decides to join the Doctor when he tells her the TARDIS travels in time, and the first place she tells the Doctor she wants to go is the day Peter Tyler, her dad, was killed (episode Father's Day from the Eccleston season), and she mucks about with things.

Consider a series ending episode Chosen from BtVS what if at the end of the episode and the closing of Sunnydale's Hellmouth, Buffy and Dawn go back to live with their father, all fans would have been 'WTF, that's the best ending you could come up with' So that's sorta of my question to Russell T. Davies, that's the best ending you could come with?

I've barely begun to think of the feminist issues and class issues.

Spoiler

'Rose Tyler', you're just playing at being important going with the Doctor on his fantastic and important adventures, BUT Rose you're just a simple shop girl, the daughter of Peter and Jackie, and Mickie's g/f. You should know your place

.

Realize please the above comments sound very harsh, but remind from the first part of the discussion I like the episode and the Tennant series in general (a good friend who is a much bigger who fan than I much prefers the Tennant series to Eccleston), but the whole finale of Rose's arc was dissappointing and maybe a bit unsatisfying. prepare for flames.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:04 pm

Agreed. But as for the latter spoiler, isn't that the case for all of the doctor's companions?

Post by **Loredoctor** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:48 am

Good news, for me: David Tennant might be leaving Doctor Who next year. If it's true, I cannot wait. I do not like his Doctor.

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New Dr Who

Doomsday shown in the US on Dec. 23, 2006