Lucimay wrote:
i really liked the kendra smith tho!! very much.
Had you heard her before?
no! i hadn't! had to look her up.
really liked it a lot too. she's my kinda weird girl!!!
Guns, dave matthews is sexy. and his band are exceedingly good,
and his music is an interesting marriage of postmodern poetry and
jazz rock pop.
and dave is sexy.
not that that will make you like him any better but, since you
"don't git it" i thought i'd explain.
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
I do like the song "Satellite" ....on your recommendation, I'll endeavor to give it another cahnce....that and HE did sign Chris Whitley to a contract on HIS label...
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Sometimes sloppy-with-feeling is better than presice-without-soul. One could make a similar judgement of Jimmy Page, but he's fantastic.
You've got to look at these people in their historical context. That's the reason you're not getting them. Hendrix was ground breaking. He played in a way and with a tone that no one had ever experienced before. There was a reason he was blowing people's minds. Try to see through their eyes. Learning to appreciate music which you're not raised to love is almost exactly like learning to appreciate a culture you're not born into.
It's like Eddie Van Halen's first CD. Listen to it in its context. Rock music was becoming bloated and brooding. Zepplin and Black Sabbath. The opposite of youthful, fun, exuberance. Then comes this 17-yr-old kid who plays in a way no one has heard before, with a band that stresses the party nature of rock and roll. Sure, legions of guitarists picked up Eddie's tricks, and lesser bands took the party attitude to new lows. But Eddie was the first to achieve this sound, and his band reinvigorated this attitude. It was revolutionary at the time.
Give credit to the pioneers who blazed the trails (or ruts) that music is now rolling through.
Oh I'm getting them Malik, been playing guitar for 25 years. Comparing Jimmy Page to Jimi Hendrix is sort of like comparing......Hell, I don't know, insert a ridiculous comparison here....Filet mignon to a bag of Cheetos.
Hendrix broke ground, but I'd argue that there's very little emotion (or "feel" if you like) to his playing. Page is all about feel.
IOW, just because someone was first doesn't make them good.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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There are a couple of things he did that were absolutely breathtaking. But that's it, just a couple. Most of his stuff makes me cringe it's so sloppy (and yes, the same can be said about a lot of live Page, especially in '77).
Looking at Jimi's overall body of work, I don't think it compares favorably with Page's, Clapton's, or Beck's.
Hell, even though Hendrix did it first, SRV did it better.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
There are a couple of things he did that were absolutely breathtaking. But that's it, just a couple. Most of his stuff makes me cringe it's so sloppy (and yes, the same can be said about a lot of live Page, especially in '77).
Looking at Jimi's overall body of work, I don't think it compares favorably with Page's, Clapton's, or Beck's.
Hell, even though Hendrix did it first, SRV did it better.
I recall Pete Townsend talking about how all of them at the time (himself, Page, Clapton, etc) all were cowed and intimidated by Hendrix and his abilities. That is saying something.
To me it seems like heaping praise on someone who died too young, and wasted their talent getting f-ed up rather than playing.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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i'll repeat this here but i think i posted it elsewhere in the Hendrix discussions...
i don't remember which it was that said it but the first time Thrashmaster Townsend and Slowhand Clapton heard Hendrix play live, one leaned over to the other and said "I think we're out of a job!" i think Clapton told that story on some Hendrix documentary.
my favorite guitarists, none of which i think is any "better" than the other.
Hendrix
Townsend
Clapton
Page
Gilmour
i think they all learned from each other.
i think they all have a unique and specific place
in rock guitar.
i couldn't choose if you paid me.
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
Well put Luci (though I don't think Townsend's fit to carry Gilmour's jock).
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
Cail wrote:Well put Luci (though I don't think Townsend's fit to carry Gilmour's jock).
well...we all have our heros, i'd imagine. i personally wouldn't want to carry Gilmour's jock and i doubt Townsend would either, but hey, to each his own!!
i should say that all those guys also learned from the same sources, BLUES players. all of them. they all digested what they'd learned and spit it back out in different ways. they each "progressed" blues derivitive rock playing in their own ways.
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
Foo Fighters - Yawn. And the singer (drummer from Nirvana) has to be one of the most overhyped musicians ever.
Garbage
Nick Cave - Pretentious, badly-sung rubbish, and repetitive.
Nirvana - About as revolutionary as making crap music marketable.
Waddley wrote:your Highness Sir Dr. Loredoctor, PhD, Esq, the Magnificent, First of his name, Second Cousin of Dragons, White-Gold-Plate Wielder!
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
Foo Fighters - Yawn. And the singer (drummer from Nirvana) has to be one of the most overhyped musicians ever.
His name is Dave Grohl right? Yes he seems to have alot of influence in various musical circles. I recently watched some huge free concert on Direct TV, in England or somewhere like that--Fighters put on a pretty good show! (It's the Goo-Goo Dolls I'd rather do without.)
Yeah, but for all the pub Grohl gets, you'd think he was David Geffen (a wealthy music and movie producer) who is an arch enemy of Neil Young, who vehemently disagrees with his ideas of creative expression and merchandising...