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Jenn, that quote also doesn't specify that it was in the same relationship that Snape experienced knowing love and being loved in return either.
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loved in return means someone loved him back or returned his love. I seriously think she meant "in addition to feeling love, Snape's love was also reciprocated." Furthermore, if she meant them as two separate instances then wouldn't she have said "He has both known love and been loved in return."? I'm not budging on this one folks. Even if it means I have to eat the sorting hat.....
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Cameraman Jenn wrote:loved in return means someone loved him back or returned his love. I seriously think she meant "in addition to feeling love, Snape's love was also reciprocated." Furthermore, if she meant them as two separate instances then wouldn't she have said "He has both known love and been loved in return."? I'm not budging on this one folks. Even if it means I have to eat the sorting hat.....
You backpedaled a bit there Jenn (although I'm sure it was unintentional), he couldn't have been loved in return, unless it was reciprocating his love. So, if he was loved in return, it must be in the same instance as as he loved someone (as you said earlier)
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I'm just trying to be super clear on my interpretation.
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Cameraman Jenn wrote:Here's the big shootdown of your theory, Guns. Lily and James were going out with each other by either sixth year or seventh year, I'll look it up this weekend. I am sure that Sirius imparted this information after Harry's foray into Snape's memory. That would mean that either Snape's love of Lily was unrequited or that Lily cheated on James with Snape. JKR said that Snape had loved and been loved in return. So that shoots down the unrequited portion of the Lily theory and do you really think that Lily would have cheated on James with Snape? Seriously? Have I gotten you to give up that silly notion yet? How about now?

Sin, the hat is animated quite often without the sword in it. Every sorting in fact and also when it talks to Harry in Dumbledore's office.
What if Snape had used a polyjuice potion to look like James at the moment of conception of Harry?
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Cameraman Jenn wrote:loved in return means someone loved him back or returned his love. I seriously think she meant "in addition to feeling love, Snape's love was also reciprocated." Furthermore, if she meant them as two separate instances then wouldn't she have said "He has both known love and been loved in return."? I'm not budging on this one folks. Even if it means I have to eat the sorting hat.....
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After all, he is really good with potions :biggrin:
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Yeah, and Hermione is actually the illegitimate love child of Dumbledore and Madame Rosemerta!
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Cameraman Jenn wrote:Yeah, and Hermione is actually the illegitimate love child of Dumbledore and Madame Rosemerta!
That was my other theory, you beat me to it.
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Yeah, and Draco is actually the forbidden offspring of Aberforth and the Goat....hahhahahahahah!
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Draco. He is Slytherins own little Lord Fauntleroy. I just can't stand 'im.
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I kinda find him comic relief. He's soooo obnoxious that it's funny when stuff backfires on him.
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He's such a republican! Spoiled little sh*t!
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An interesting tidbit from Rowling at the Edinburgh Book Festival.
J. K. Rowling wrote:..there is a little bit more to Aunt Petunia than meets the eye...She is not a squib, although that is a very good guess. Oh, I am giving a lot away here. I am being shockingly indiscreet.
She has also stated that a non-magic character will perform magic late in life in desperate circumstances, but that it won't be Petunia.

I doubt it would be either of the known squibs in the story (Argus Filch and Arabella Figg) which leaves Dudley. It would be possible, as the magic gene clearly runs in the Evans family.
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"Late in life"?
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18 would be pretty late in life I think, although I get what you're saying. I just don't think suddenly having Flich or Mrs Figg perform magic would advance the story at all, and other than Petunia, there are no other non-magical characters.

I suppose it could be Vernon, but for some reason that just seems unlikely.
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Duds would be a nice touch considering what a git he's been up to this point. He's kind of a Malfoy.
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I believe that original quote references that "after 11" is late in life (something like, it usually manifests by 11 when they start school). Does the quote only say "Not Petunia" or "not a Dursley"?

I could see Arabella having a desperate situation, that forced magic out of her. I'm not sure, despite being a Squib, that Filch is hated enough by the Dark side, to be put in such a desperate situation. Have we seen Narcissa actually perform magic? That'd be a blow to the Malfoy family if it was revealed she was a Squib, LOL.
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Can a squib be involved in an unbreakable vow?
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The quote apparentl says "not Petunia".

As for Narcissa, I'm pretty sure she aparates to Snape's home so she can't be a squib.
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