my brothers and sisters! are you not pleased with my success?
my goodness. graditude is in such short supply!!
Meh? To what do you refer, Sister?
I am the self-fulfilling prophecy. Give love, and you WILL receive love. Let your every answer, your every action and reaction, your every desire, be rooted in love.
O-gon-cho wrote:Brethren, I come with joyous news. Through the blessings of Bhakti and Melirelle, the Hatching Grounds are covered with viable hardening eggs. I humbly thank you both for your efforts on my Dragons behalf.
20 golden queens are in clutch, each producing somewhere between 30 and 60 eggs! The eggs will harden during this turn, and I expect the Hatching to occur with the onset of Fall! As it will occur during the season of Hedra Iren, I request she smile kindly upon this momentous event.
As the eggs Hatch, the hatchlings will be most susceptable to being Impressed, connecting telepathically lifelong to a Rider. I hereby throw open the Hatching and Impression ceremonies to followers of the entire Pantheon, only seeking your good will in return.
If you are interested in the Impression ceremony, please hand select candidates to present themselves at Zandarar a month before for training on how to conduct oneself during a Hatching, so they do not get accidently mauled by a hatchling desperately seeking their Rider. I am thinking a total of 5-10 candidates from each of my brethren should be manageable. However, be forewarned that weyrling and Rider training takes three full years. Before that, the weyrling is too weak to carry a Rider very far, and both are too inexperienced to handle the wind currents.
Once notified of the candidates, I will send out the by then graduating weyrling class to transport the candidates to Zandarar. Be sure they are of stout heart, this class of new adults are swift creatures! All candidates who do not Impress will be returned the same way, unless they make an appeal to be allowed to find a non-Rider position in the weyr. Then, they will be encouraged to contact their prophet, and enquire what the will of their deity is for them to do.
Impression will not be subject to outside influence, not even mine! The choice of a Rider will be governed only by the Will and Freedom of the Hatchlings! If you agree to these terms, I look forward to having Raucous welcome your cadidates to Zandarar in two months time.
O-gon-cho, how does this work? The Dragons follow you, and the riders follow others. What happens when there is conflict between different riders' deities? What happens when AK begins Destroying Eiran? Obviously, those of us who do not want Eiran Destroyed will oppose him. Will your Dragons fight each other because their riders wish to fight each other?
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Bhakti wrote:O-gon-cho, how does this work? The Dragons follow you, and the riders follow others. What happens when there is conflict between different riders' deities? What happens when AK begins Destroying Eiran? Obviously, those of us who do not want Eiran Destroyed will oppose him. Will your Dragons fight each other because their riders wish to fight each other?
A good question, m'l-rd.
As the AllFather recently informed me, I am not the G-dess of Dragons (yet, I need to find out how to become so), even though my main followers are dragons. So, the hatchlings will not all necessarily worship me. Again, their FREEDOM and WILL come into play here. My assumption is if a dragon impresses with a candidate from another deity, that they will both worship that deity; the hatchling being influenced by the devotion of his chosen Rider, not by DRP.
Even those dragons who will not impress, will not automatically be mine...
As far as fighting...
The dragons will decide for themselves, based on their relationship with their Rider, if they will engage upon dragon against dragon behavior. It is my desire for it not to happen. But each dragon has their own FREEDOM and WILL to decide. I will not impinge upon that.
:::out of character:::
Gotta run! Beorn has the honor of carrying the Torah before and after the Reading today at services...
Ah. So then if a Dragon chooses a rider of another deity, the rider and Dragon will live with that other deity's followers. Interesting.
O-gon-cho wrote::::out of character:::
Gotta run! Beorn has the honor of carrying the Torah before and after the Reading today at services...
I am the self-fulfilling prophecy. Give love, and you WILL receive love. Let your every answer, your every action and reaction, your every desire, be rooted in love.
Bhakti wrote:Ah. So then if a Dragon chooses a rider of another deity, the rider and Dragon will live with that other deity's followers. Interesting.
You're interpretation is right on the money, m'l-rd. But, and I want sister Jove to pay attention as well if she is submitting her Prophet, this is after the weyrling training. Keep in mind this takes 3 years (a/k/a 12 Turns). The weyrlings aren't strong enough to fly their Rider, nor taught of the various ways to fly the currents safely, before then.
It was suggested to me in private that perhaps brother Argothoth can help mature these Hatchlings faster, but I suspect something would be missed iin their training if this is done, and so far will not agree to this. I wish to gift my brethren with fully healthy, fully trained dragons and Riders, and not creatures deprived of all they can be due to shortcuts.
OTOH, Riders will not be cut off from their deity or from contact with their families. I can not guarantee transport wil always be available, but if a Rider should get homesick, or have something that comes up that needs to be taken care of during the 3 years training, I am sure something can be worked out for an occasional visit. As long as the topic to be covered in training while s/he is gone is not essential for continued progress.
Jove wrote:I think I may have asked you this before but do the dragons like treasure?
If so, I may be of some help in this matter.
You have asked me this before, m'lady, and I have given some thought on the matter. My dragons who live in Zandarar do not seem to feel this intense desire to locate and hoarde treasure, but I have heard of such. Perhaps these creatures are those who do not Impress and who choose to not live in a weyr. In that case, I can see the attraction to treasure obsessing them
Bhakti wrote:
My player thanks you for your acknowledgement, m'l-rd.
I mentioned Darkheart. Again, it devours love, like a perpetually hungry maw; its power is such that the merest touch of the Darkheart may forever drain a person of any capacity to feel Love. Unfortunately, it and the mortal who created it disappeared soon after its creation. I have no idea how difficult it will be to find, but I will attempt to find it this turn. Any who do not want to take the chance of it turning up in your lands, and forever draining your followers of any capacity to feel Love, are encouraged to donate a DRP to me for the search.
I am the self-fulfilling prophecy. Give love, and you WILL receive love. Let your every answer, your every action and reaction, your every desire, be rooted in love.
my brothers and sisters! are you not pleased with my success?
Let us know of your success, so we can celebrate appropriately! And thank you for your help, Mithyaat, in casting Pourzoleh back whence he came! (Although it was not a complete success , your help was invaluable)
Simjen (thank you for your help also), on that matter, your Nails may prove useful to closing Pourzoleh's portal, also I may wish to consult you as God of Volcanoes!
Undine
Aglithophile and conniptionist and spectacular moonbow beholder 16Jul11
Argothoth claims Queeaqueg and The Necropolis; shortly afterwards, however, Jove's power creates a tornado around the island of The Necropolis, and a golden star rises above it, obscuring it from divine sight.
Brother Argothoth,
I am indeed sorry about this. I heard no argument against taking Necropolis and so I assumed that it was safe to take.
Please, let us discuss our options on this matter. I am confident we can come to an agreement.
My sister, we can discuss it privately. I'm sure that we will find an agreement
Death is the threshold through which life eternal is reached.
Saving Eiran is the main reason for existing.
Embrace Death as the best means towards this goal.
The most powerful god in Eiran Pantheon 2.0
Divine Rank: 11
Total Worshipers and Prevalent Race: 2.411.443 (undead humans)
I confirm that Maeror did not ask me the permission to colonize the continent. Therefore i support Merilelle.
Lord Adomorn , i ask for your ruling.
Xar wrote:Melirelle
God of the Dead, your continued actions on Khenstorn are beginning to anger me. When you sent your Prophet and your settlers on our continent - without even bothering to ask for permission, or even to ask whether the land you wanted to reach was claimed by one of the Khenstorn deities, I might add - my Prophet met yours face to face, and delivered you a warning.
Rather than listening to the warning, your Prophet initiated further actions, culminating in your empowering of the Spire he has raised, so that an area of Khenstorn in the land I have claimed is now blanketed by your power.
Perhaps you believe to be in the right, and that therefore you should answer to no one. But I warn you once more: retire from Khenstorn, destroy the Spire, remove your power from my lands and apologize for your intrusion, or I will become the enemy you think I might be.
Other gods know I am not anyone's enemy; but your actions are tantamount to a provocation and an attack, and I will not let that pass.
I also ask the God of Justice to give a ruling on the matter. Here is the situation: the God of Death has sent his Prophet and settlers to my lands in Khenstorn, without asking permission to me, Argothoth, Nor Yekith or Chisi La'Roo, and without asking whether the land he intended to claim was already claimed by one of these four deities.
He was warned by my Prophet to leave at once; instead, his Prophet and settlers built a stone spire, and the God of Death imbued it with power so that a portion of my land is now invisible to my eyes.
God of Justice, I require a ruling: is the God of Death acting according to Justice?
Ponder this question carefully: for if you agree with him that his actions were fair, then Justice demands that you similarly accept that any of my people settling in the God of Death's lands - with or without his permission - would similarly be protected by you.
Death is the threshold through which life eternal is reached.
Saving Eiran is the main reason for existing.
Embrace Death as the best means towards this goal.
The most powerful god in Eiran Pantheon 2.0
Divine Rank: 11
Total Worshipers and Prevalent Race: 2.411.443 (undead humans)
However, I think judgement should be made by Hedra Iren. Let her consider Melirelle's claim and Maeror's apology.
Should further action be required, Adomorn may fulfill his role by administering punishment or arbitrating the terms of the settlement should one be reached between the two. Only he may say if justice has been done satisfactorally.
Said she, "What I get I get out of the fire,
So prithee, strike home and redouble the blow."
The path forward is clear; DESTROY the Spire!! It is an affront to the Sovereingn of this Land. Perhaps you will lend your FIRE to the task; cousin of the Forge!
The path forward is clear; DESTROY the Spire!! It is an affront to the Sovereingn of this Land. Perhaps you will lend your FIRE to the task; cousin of the Forge!
Slow down there, Tiger! I'm sure Maeror is quite capable of taking care of the spire himself.
The path forward is clear; DESTROY the Spire!! It is an affront to the Sovereingn of this Land. Perhaps you will lend your FIRE to the task; cousin of the Forge!
Slow down there, Tiger! I'm sure Maeror is quite capable of taking care of the spire himself.
Simjen wrote:I believe Melirelle has the right of it.
However, I think judgement should be made by Hedra Iren. Let her consider Melirelle's claim and Maeror's apology.
Forgive me, Brother, but I must disagree. As I said, such a thing has not even been discussed. Certainly, nothing we might consider a Law on this topic has been made. Nor (that's nor, not Nor) has your Wife attempted to unilaterally establish one. I believe Vadhaka has the best advice at this point. If Maeror and Melirelle cannot come to a satisfactory arrangement, perhaps we can fine a way to rule on it. Both have asked for the Pantheon's opinions, after all. Then perhaps we can have Hedra Iren write it into her Book.
I am the self-fulfilling prophecy. Give love, and you WILL receive love. Let your every answer, your every action and reaction, your every desire, be rooted in love.
I think we would all see it differently if it were our own claim.
My comment stands. If a ruling is needed, i.e., Maeror and Melirelle do not resolve it between themselves, it should be a ruling of law, and we are too few for our opinion to count as such. None know law better than Hedra, and I don't think anyone here would say differently.
Regardless, my comment was only in opposition to asking Adomorn to adjudicate. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Justice doesn't get to to decide. It is instead the proper execution of law.
There's no reason Adomorn couldn't have a different opinion of what the proper execution of it is. But if we're going to ask... Well, I've made clear who I think would be the right god.
If something needs to be written into the book, we can do so afterwards. If we did so now, at best Maeror would face an ex post facto situation.
Said she, "What I get I get out of the fire,
So prithee, strike home and redouble the blow."
Simjen wrote:My comment stands. If a ruling is needed, i.e., Maeror and Melirelle do not resolve it between themselves, it should be a ruling of law, and we are too few for our opinion to count as such.
True enough. Although I have heard of ruling bodies the same size as the Pantheon ruling by a majority vote, I agree that it would be nice to have a different solution.
Simjen wrote:If something needs to be written into the book, we can do so afterwards. If we did so now, at best Maeror would face an ex post facto situation.
Agreed. But I wasn't suggesting that. I'm just saying that, if Hedra has the authority to say I have broken a Law, I would like to know what the Laws are beforehand.
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