Pantheon 2.0 - Rules and Comments Thread

[Argothoth]

MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

THE POWER THE POWER, POWER

[I'm Murrin]

And why, can I ask, are you killing your own followers?

Do you believe every rumour that passes among the mortals? The blame for the murders lies at the feet of Astavyastataa, who even in his greatest efforts at stealth is so lacking in subtlety as to make those efforts entirely worthless.

[Mistress Cathy]

Allfather,

I don't mean to quibble but Adomorn has fewer followers than I do and yet he is level 6 whereas I am still level 5.

Same with Melirelle - fewer worshipers but higher level. Should I not now be level 6?

[O-gon-cho]

You begin to be worshiped as the G-ddess of Dragons.

Say what? I didn’t even do anything (other than to keep pestering in the Comments thread)! Can I now change my title?

O-gon-cho, Mistress of Air, Dragons, Light and Music
Holy symbol: A dragon's egg containing a fiery cosmos that also is a draconic embryo.
Divine Rank: 3

Yes!! Praise be the AllFather!

(uhm…now what all does Mistress of Dragons entail?)

Will it help me with this?

A rogue dragon of a species never seen before, and far larger than even the golden queens, has come to Immeril from the west, and is laying waste to the small villages of the desert near Zandarar, killing many.

Ah…my people. That a cousin of my own should do such.

AllFather, several Turns ago the searchers for the oasis of my Hatching, apparently a holy site to them, returned with news of signs of the mythical wingless cousins to my Zandarar dragons (think Chinese dragons) in the Scirocco desert. Is anything known of this rogue dragon? Are there any survivors of the villages of Scirocco who would have witnessed such as attack?

[Benito Alvarez]

What a delicious turn of events. This will be a fun turn.

[Xar]

Allfather,

I don't mean to quibble but Adomorn has fewer followers than I do and yet he is level 6 whereas I am still level 5.

Same with Melirelle - fewer worshipers but higher level. Should I not now be level 6?

Yes, that was an oversight. I'll correct it.

Incidentally - I would like to mention that this turn, O-gon-cho's invulnerability is ended, as this is her fifth turn. Because he has attacked another deity's important followers, Astavyastataa Kadna's invulnerability is also voided.

[Mistress Cathy]

Thank you, All-Fatherer.

[Astavyastataa Kadna]

..... Because he has attacked another deity's important followers, Astavyastataa Kadna's invulnerability is also voided.

Who? ME!!! Surely not me!!

[I'm Murrin]

Been updating my spreadsheet: Ouch. First time I've been lower than third place.

[Mistress Cathy]

Been updating my spreadsheet: Ouch. First time I've been lower than third place.

I was thinking about your spreadsheet today, Murrin. I wish I would have kept one so that I could track what is going on. So often I forget little things that I should be attending to.

[Astavyastataa Kadna]

And why, can I ask, are you killing your own followers?

Do you believe every rumour that passes among the mortals? The blame for the murders lies at the feet of Astavyastataa, who even in his greatest efforts at stealth is so lacking in subtlety as to make those efforts entirely worthless.

Prove to me god of death that MY followers spread death in your lands under my orders. Surely you would have posted the evidence so far!!

... or is it TRUE, god of death ... that you return to your old ways!! Killing your followers!!! Even Malice would not be so vile!! Shame on you!!

[O-gon-cho]

Incidentally - I would like to mention that this turn, O-gon-cho's invulnerability is ended, as this is her fifth turn.

Oh geez, AllFather. Thanks...

I've been keeping track, and I updated a few trusted deities (OK, maybe just one deity) of my status. Isn't that all who needed to know?

[Xar]

Nope, everyone does

Oh, by the way, the Eschatology contest is now closed. You have time until June 20 to submit your votes; voting will proceed exactly like it did for the creation myth contest. Of course, if I get all votes early, I'll post the results early as well

[I'm Murrin]

And why, can I ask, are you killing your own followers?

Do you believe every rumour that passes among the mortals? The blame for the murders lies at the feet of Astavyastataa, who even in his greatest efforts at stealth is so lacking in subtlety as to make those efforts entirely worthless.

Prove to me god of death that MY followers spread death in your lands under my orders. Surely you would have posted the evidence so far!!

... or is it TRUE, god of death ... that you return to your old ways!! Killing your followers!!! Even Malice would not be so vile!! Shame on you!!

Proof? Simply the obvious chain of events: Your followers appear in my lands, spreading trouble, but not hiding their allegiance. You learn of this, and swear they will be more hidden in the future. The next turn, the same chaos is spreading, but they are no longer declaring themselves. And a series of murders carried out by those who can do what you have freely admitted your chosen followers can do? The conclusion is self-explanatory.
And there is of course the fact that the ones you sent to kill my prophet called out your name as they died.

[Astavyastataa Kadna]

Do you believe every rumour that passes among the mortals? The blame for the murders lies at the feet of Astavyastataa, who even in his greatest efforts at stealth is so lacking in subtlety as to make those efforts entirely worthless.

Prove to me god of death that MY followers spread death in your lands under my orders. Surely you would have posted the evidence so far!!

... or is it TRUE, god of death ... that you return to your old ways!! Killing your followers!!! Even Malice would not be so vile!! Shame on you!!

Proof? Simply the obvious chain of events: Your followers appear in my lands, spreading trouble, but not hiding their allegiance. You learn of this, and swear they will be more hidden in the future. The next turn, the same chaos is spreading, but they are no longer declaring themselves. And a series of murders carried out by those who can do what you have freely admitted your chosen followers can do? The conclusion is self-explanatory.
And there is of course the fact that the ones you sent to kill my prophet called out your name as they died.

FOOL!!!

Techniques can be copied!!

Do you DENY that another deity told you that their follower killed yours ... and blamed mine; copying symbols to FALSELY implicate me!! Of course I said that if my followers attacked you they should be more hidden ... that is a declaration of anyones need to be competent! It is not a declaration of attack!!

I ask you again, cross-dressing godling!! What PROOF do you have that mine are the cause ... it seems to me the winds are carrying YOUR name as the source of your own peoples DESTRUCTION!!

SHAME on you!!

[Xar]

Do you believe every rumour that passes among the mortals? The blame for the murders lies at the feet of Astavyastataa, who even in his greatest efforts at stealth is so lacking in subtlety as to make those efforts entirely worthless.

Prove to me god of death that MY followers spread death in your lands under my orders. Surely you would have posted the evidence so far!!

... or is it TRUE, god of death ... that you return to your old ways!! Killing your followers!!! Even Malice would not be so vile!! Shame on you!!

Proof? Simply the obvious chain of events: Your followers appear in my lands, spreading trouble, but not hiding their allegiance. You learn of this, and swear they will be more hidden in the future. The next turn, the same chaos is spreading, but they are no longer declaring themselves. And a series of murders carried out by those who can do what you have freely admitted your chosen followers can do? The conclusion is self-explanatory.
And there is of course the fact that the ones you sent to kill my prophet called out your name as they died.

Could you maybe move this discussion to the game thread, if it is being carried on by the characters?

[I'm Murrin]

Actually I've not been speaking entirely in character, but if you insist.

[Astavyastataa Kadna]

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Could you maybe move this discussion to the game thread, if it is being carried on by the characters?

OOC Sorry - I moved our last complete one Murrin ... feel free to build from that!!

[Benito Alvarez]

Alright Xar I want a call.

So I can understand having a system of checks and balances on my character, for being the god of Justic and all, and stopping me from attacking Nor first from "lack of evidence, breaking the Law" yada, yada, yada.

But I want to know if there is LIKEWISE an equal amount of checks and balances against an attack from Nor, or ANY balance at all.

I mean, I thought that all my previous reasons were validated in attacking, but you didn't so I didn't attack last turn.

However it seems unfair that now that I was proved right, it is too late for me win. Let's face it, I WILL loose in a toe-to-toe with Nor.

[Xar]

Alright Xar I want a call.

So I can understand having a system of checks and balances on my character, for being the god of Justic and all, and stopping me from attacking Nor first from "lack of evidence, breaking the Law" yada, yada, yada.

But I want to know if there is LIKEWISE an equal amount of checks and balances against an attack from Nor, or ANY balance at all.

I mean, I thought that all my previous reasons were validated in attacking, but you didn't so I didn't attack last turn.

However it seems unfair that now that I was proved right, it is too late for me win. Let's face it, I WILL loose in a toe-to-toe with Nor.

Obviously, Nor's declaration of war has broken the law, so now he is in open violation, which in turn means that any god who wishes to strike at him can do so without fear of reprisal. For the same reason, Maeror could claim that Astavyastataa Kadna has likewise broken the Law (although what could one expect from the god of chaos?) and an attack on him would be then accepted.

The problem is that breaking the Law is obviously a matter of greater importance for a god of Justice, because the Law is PART of what he is: this may not sound fair, and it probably isn't, but since for Justice to exist there must be laws that allow to enact it, it follows that the god of Justice - and even more so the goddess of Law - must abide by law, unless they wish to be reduced. Nor Yekith, as a god of Malice, does not go against his own essence if he breaks the Law.

Keep in mind that things like this can happen to all gods, in different ways. A god using his power to enact something which goes against his areas of influence undermines his own power.

But nevertheless, Nor Yekith will reap what he has sown; perhaps he won't suffer an immediate reduction in his number of followers, but there ARE other consequences to the breaking of Law, which include perhaps the most important one: breaking the Law means that the Law in turn doesn't protect you anymore. This should be a logical step, but it might be overlooked.

A god who breaks this Law can be killed.