And in DLB's Edgetar it is two serpents around a staff right? I see it now.
I just read up on it: It seem that the term caduceus - while actually a general greek term for a herrolds staff - is generally used to describe the staff of Hermes.
The funny thing (aparently) is that both the staffs of Hermes and that of Aesculapius have been used as symbols in different branches of the medical profession. *Takes deep breath*
I gather from the use of the Caduceus that DLB is or has been in the US-Army medical corps? Or that the caduceus (rather than the Staff of Aesculapius) is used to symbolise the pharmaceutical profession in the US?
*Lowers shoulder, pants slightly*
"I would have gone to the thesaurus for a more erudite word."
-Hashi Lebwohl
Rod of Asclepius, Confusion with the caduceus
The caduceus is often incorrectly used as a symbol for medicine or doctors, in place of the rod of Asclepius which is the usual symbol of the medical profession. A 1992 survey of American health organisations found that 62% of professional associations used the staff of Asclepius, whereas in commercial organisations, 76% used the caduceus.[5]
Early confusion between the symbols almost certainly arose due to the links between alchemy and Hermes, whose symbol is the caduceus. The alchemists adopted the caduceus because Hermes, the God of Messengers, was also the patron lord of gamblers, thieves, tricksters and alchemists. By the end of the 16th century, alchemy became widely associated with medicine in some areas, leading to some use of the caduceus as a medical symbol.[6]
The main reason for the modern confusion over the symbols occurred when the caduceus was adopted by the Medical Department of the United States Army in 1902. [1] This was brought about by one Captain Reynolds, who after having the idea rejected several times by the Surgeon General, persuaded the new incumbent (WH Forwood) to adopt it. The mistake was noticed several years later by the librarian to the surgeon general, but was not changed.[1]
There was further confusion caused by the use of the caduceus as a printer's mark (as Hermes was the god of eloquence and messengers), which appeared in many medical textbooks as a printing mark, although subsequently mistaken for a medical symbol.[1]
"I would have gone to the thesaurus for a more erudite word."
-Hashi Lebwohl
Edge wrote:
Btw, that's quite the collection of symbols!
I may be Jewish but Hyperception's spirituality is a...hodgepodge. He's been using that image as his desktop on the computer in his office at UF's History department for years now...
I love the avatars you've made for the board members! They all look great and I always look forward to to seeing your artistic vision for each one.
If you're interested and have the time I'd like you to make another run at mine. Last time you focused more on the "Brinn" theme making the avatar look like a haruchai warrior. It was great but I've always been attached to my current avatar which has more of a silver surfer feel to it. A couple thoughts to seed your fertile imagination: Keep the silver surfer motif of my current avatar. Keep the "cool" color scheme (i.e. silvers, blues, whites etc...), mix in my affinity for the "Think Tank". Other than that, you're on your own! Thanks again!
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.John Stuart Mill
SoulBiter is a big storm.... Maybe something with a Granite ship tossed about on a storm.. or maybe just an ocean scene in a HUGE storm... The big storm doesnt have the same affect unless you can see something being tossed around by it.
Or just use your imagination and see what you come up with.
We miss you Tracie but your Spirit will always shine brightly on the Watch
ooooh but SB!!! i love the dozing cowboy!!! (always thought that was ironic, dozing cowboy with the
name of a storm! )
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
its a lot like the one i wear too, except mine is...shorter...shallower...
bah...i don't know how to describe that. you know what i mean?
plus! now that i think about it, it reminds me of brad pitt in the backseat of thelma and louise's convertible!!
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
Lucimay wrote:its a lot like the one i wear too, except mine is...shorter...shallower...
bah...i don't know how to describe that. you know what i mean?
Prebe wrote:Brace yourselves for some hard trivia:
According to Wiki:
Rod of Asclepius, Confusion with the caduceus
The caduceus is often incorrectly used as a symbol for medicine or doctors, in place of the rod of Asclepius which is the usual symbol of the medical profession. A 1992 survey of American health organisations found that 62% of professional associations used the staff of Asclepius, whereas in commercial organisations, 76% used the caduceus.[5]
Early confusion between the symbols almost certainly arose due to the links between alchemy and Hermes, whose symbol is the caduceus. The alchemists adopted the caduceus because Hermes, the God of Messengers, was also the patron lord of gamblers, thieves, tricksters and alchemists. By the end of the 16th century, alchemy became widely associated with medicine in some areas, leading to some use of the caduceus as a medical symbol.[6]
The main reason for the modern confusion over the symbols occurred when the caduceus was adopted by the Medical Department of the United States Army in 1902. [1] This was brought about by one Captain Reynolds, who after having the idea rejected several times by the Surgeon General, persuaded the new incumbent (WH Forwood) to adopt it. The mistake was noticed several years later by the librarian to the surgeon general, but was not changed.[1]
There was further confusion caused by the use of the caduceus as a printer's mark (as Hermes was the god of eloquence and messengers), which appeared in many medical textbooks as a printing mark, although subsequently mistaken for a medical symbol.[1]
Thanks for the info - it's the connection between alchemy to medicine/pharmacy that I was going after (although the tip about Hermes also being the God of gamblers and thieves interests me .)
Prebe wrote:Brace yourselves for some hard trivia:
According to Wiki:
Rod of Asclepius, Confusion with the caduceus
The caduceus is often incorrectly used as a symbol for medicine or doctors, in place of the rod of Asclepius which is the usual symbol of the medical profession. A 1992 survey of American health organisations found that 62% of professional associations used the staff of Asclepius, whereas in commercial organisations, 76% used the caduceus.[5]
Early confusion between the symbols almost certainly arose due to the links between alchemy and Hermes, whose symbol is the caduceus. The alchemists adopted the caduceus because Hermes, the God of Messengers, was also the patron lord of gamblers, thieves, tricksters and alchemists. By the end of the 16th century, alchemy became widely associated with medicine in some areas, leading to some use of the caduceus as a medical symbol.[6]
The main reason for the modern confusion over the symbols occurred when the caduceus was adopted by the Medical Department of the United States Army in 1902. [1] This was brought about by one Captain Reynolds, who after having the idea rejected several times by the Surgeon General, persuaded the new incumbent (WH Forwood) to adopt it. The mistake was noticed several years later by the librarian to the surgeon general, but was not changed.[1]
There was further confusion caused by the use of the caduceus as a printer's mark (as Hermes was the god of eloquence and messengers), which appeared in many medical textbooks as a printing mark, although subsequently mistaken for a medical symbol.[1]
And then when they made Snakes on a Plane, all hell broke loose.
Strange, I've never seen a dragon in that. It's a variation of a caduceus.
in fact, i'd like to smoke yours!!
I seem to remember that mistake being made before.
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