Where should I begin with Tad Williams?
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Where should I begin with Tad Williams?
A colleague has recommended TW after he heard of my preference for SRD's works.
TW seems quite prolific though. Can anyone recomend a good place to start?
TW seems quite prolific though. Can anyone recomend a good place to start?
"I would have gone to the thesaurus for a more erudite word."
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Start with the Dragonbone Chair. The Memory, Sorrow, Thorn series is his best achievement.
Like Donaldson, TW takes a lot of writing to get to where he's going, but, like Donaldson, it's worth it. Like the Chronicles, MST can be written off as a LOTR-clone; like the Chronicles, it really does take off and can be considered very good in its own right.
Like Donaldson, TW takes a lot of writing to get to where he's going, but, like Donaldson, it's worth it. Like the Chronicles, MST can be written off as a LOTR-clone; like the Chronicles, it really does take off and can be considered very good in its own right.
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A friend of mine loaned me The Dragonbone Chair a few months ago... I devoured the book and eventually bought the whole Memory, Sorrow and Thorn series. Wayfriend is right, he does take his time, but the books are really great.Prebe wrote:Just ordered the entire first trilogy from the Book Depository.
I can't wait to get stuck in!
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The main criticism of the trilogy (in four books) is that it moves slowly. I didn't have a problem with that when I read it, except maybe in the middle of To Green Angel Tower a little (which isn't surprising when that one 'book' is split into two volumes both as long as the previous books in the series). George RR Martin is a big fan of MS&T, and put a lot of little references to it (mostly knights' names, like the twins Josua and Elias) in aSoIaF.
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I was puzzled for quite a while thank you. You hear it's a trilogy, but you keep running into four books!
The reason I got it from book-depository and not straight from Amazon was, that bd had "To Green angel tower" as a single volume (i recon, since it had no subtitle, and was the most expensive of the three).
Thank you very much for the warning though. I hope I'm ok......
Edit: I think that SRD is still the only author who managed to cram 10 books into a trilogy right??
The reason I got it from book-depository and not straight from Amazon was, that bd had "To Green angel tower" as a single volume (i recon, since it had no subtitle, and was the most expensive of the three).
Thank you very much for the warning though. I hope I'm ok......

Edit: I think that SRD is still the only author who managed to cram 10 books into a trilogy right??
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Hmmmm. Personally I would have recommended starting with the Otherland series.
Then again, maybe those guys just want to get you warmed up for the really good stuff.
Then again, maybe those guys just want to get you warmed up for the really good stuff.

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I really enjoyed his "Otherland" series but when it came down to the big climax I felt a little underwhelmed. I haven't read any of his other works. Maybe I'll give this other series a try.
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I guess it comes down to personal taste. I ws engrossed from beginning to end, and was disappointed when it ended only because I wanted more!
I'm fascinated by his vision of the future, and with his blend of psychology, cybernetics, and mysticism.
Of course, reading a book that, for a change, was actually set where I live, was a huge bonus and a very novel (no pun intended!) experience. So much so, that I fired off an e-mail to Mr. Williams and we corresponded briefly.
After that, I battled to get into MST, I guess because I was really wanting more Otherland. In fact, I still haven't finished MST.
I'm fascinated by his vision of the future, and with his blend of psychology, cybernetics, and mysticism.
Of course, reading a book that, for a change, was actually set where I live, was a huge bonus and a very novel (no pun intended!) experience. So much so, that I fired off an e-mail to Mr. Williams and we corresponded briefly.
After that, I battled to get into MST, I guess because I was really wanting more Otherland. In fact, I still haven't finished MST.

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Let me clarify my earlier statement about Otherland. I loved the books, I even recommended them to a bunch of people. The writing is engaging and fascinating. What a brilliant imagination he has. I just thought that after thousands of pages of buildup there would be something more drastic in the end. More catastrophic. I don't know. After all the plot complications and brilliant charactor building etc. I think that when the proverbial shit hit the fan it seemed a little anticlimatic to me. Then again, I love dramalamadingdong! 

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MS&T was too predictable for me. A good read, and certainly not so predictable that I scoffed at finishing the series, but a little too easy nonetheless. Otherland was enormous and long at times, but I felt it was better. Yeah, the ending wasn't incredible, but the journey of the characters in Otherland was something much less formulaic than the journeys of characters in MS&T.
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I'll put MS&T in my to do list.
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I truly enjoyed it- MST/ASOIAF spoiler:
btw, Earthblood runs our Tad Williams forum at the Hangar (click my www to get there).
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loved the isle witch, Ser Cameris, Binabik and Pyrates is downright nasty as hell!
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I'd love to lock him and Melissandre in a room together for a week!
fall far and well Pilots!