Heroes - Season 2

[Hedra Iren]

There. No need for the spoiler tags unless it's something from outside of the shown eps. I don't want to see a repeat of the Lost thread.

[[Syl]]

Bump?

[[Syl]]

About half way through tonight's ep, I was thinking it was Kensei who killed Nakamura. At the end of it, I was pretty sure.

[Moxinomal]

I wouldn't be suprised if it was infact Kensei who killed Nakamura. It certainly raises various questions about his own powers though. Perhaps something, if not exactly, like Peter?

[dlbpharmd]

I wouldn't be suprised if it was infact Kensei who killed Nakamura. It certainly raises various questions about his own powers though. Perhaps something, if not exactly, like Peter?

I think you're right.

[I'm Murrin]

If he founded the group that became the Company, then he has been around for decades without aging. If so, he may have lived for hundreds of years, waiting for Hiro to come along. He would have survived the explosion, with his power.

He is the one who killed Nakamura, I agree--watching the clip again, it seems to be a young white man of about his build, and Nakamura's comment-- "of all of them, I never suspected it would be you"--says it is probably Adam Monroe. Any doubt about whether Kensei and Adam Monroe really are the same person can probably be cast out--the show's creators would complicate things so far.

Why is he attacking the company, though? I can understand him killing Hiro's father--it's part of his revenge. But why create the Company, and then destroy it?
About his powers, we've not seen any evidence so far of him having powers other than healing. If he did, he wouldn't need to use other people to accomplish his goals. He wouldn't need to recruit Peter if he was like him.

On the subject of Peter--he's being manipulated by Kensei, and I'm wondering to what extent. I think it's important to find out whether his arrival in Cork was planned by the Company (they found him quite easily) or not. Kensei clearly knew about Peter's amnesia, because he's taking advantage of it.


Also want to note just how quickly the plot has moved ahead this episode: most of the paintings have occured, the virus is out, Hiro's back in the present and the enemy (Kensei) is revealed, all in one episode. I was thinking this would be a slow moving series compared to the first, but it looks like things are speeding up a little. Wondering how the Sylar and New Orleans threads are going to tie in.

[Moxinomal]

If he founded the group that became the Company, then he has been around for decades without aging. If so, he may have lived for hundreds of years, waiting for Hiro to come along. He would have survived the explosion, with his power.

Which can lead us to a few conclusions. He either: A.) Has powers like that of Peter and can fold Time, B.) He has a power similar to Claire where he can regenerate his aged cells to always stay young, or C.) He has the power of immortality.

He is the one who killed Nakamura, I agree--watching the clip again, it seems to be a young white man of about his build, and Nakamura's comment-- "of all of them, I never suspected it would be you"--says it is probably Adam Monroe. Any doubt about whether Kensei and Adam Monroe really are the same person can probably be cast out--the show's creators would complicate things so far.

Indeed.

Why is he attacking the company, though? I can understand him killing Hiro's father--it's part of his revenge. But why create the Company, and then destroy it?

He probably had a less twisted sense of morality back then. Either that or the company got to powerful for him to enforce, they imprisoned him, and followed their own path. Either way, it leads to some interesting paths.

About his powers, we've not seen any evidence so far of him having powers other than healing. If he did, he wouldn't need to use other people to accomplish his goals. He wouldn't need to recruit Peter if he was like him.

True enough, which is why after thinking about it, he might have the options of B or C as I listed above. Either that or he's some freaky ghost. lol

On the subject of Peter--he's being manipulated by Kensei, and I'm wondering to what extent. I think it's important to find out whether his arrival in Cork was planned by the Company (they found him quite easily) or not. Kensei clearly knew about Peter's amnesia, because he's taking advantage of it.

You're right. Knowing if it was planned or not will unveil quite a bit.

Also want to note just how quickly the plot has moved ahead this episode: most of the paintings have occured, the virus is out, Hiro's back in the present and the enemy (Kensei) is revealed, all in one episode. I was thinking this would be a slow moving series compared to the first, but it looks like things are speeding up a little. Wondering how the Sylar and New Orleans threads are going to tie in.

I dunno, but my bet is that when Sylar & Crew reach NYC, Sylar's powers will probably re-manifest. As to Micah and his cousin, that's something beyond me.

[dlbpharmd]

Also want to note just how quickly the plot has moved ahead this episode: most of the paintings have occured, the virus is out, Hiro's back in the present and the enemy (Kensei) is revealed, all in one episode. I was thinking this would be a slow moving series compared to the first, but it looks like things are speeding up a little. Wondering how the Sylar and New Orleans threads are going to tie in.

Agreed, this was the best episode of the season thus far, and I'm really looking forward to next week's "fill in the blanks" episode.

[A Gunslinger]

Finally a good episode. Holy crap, I was going to give up.

[ItisWritten]

Why is he attacking the company, though? I can understand him killing Hiro's father--it's part of his revenge. But why create the Company, and then destroy it?

Bob told Mohinder that Adam had recently escaped. I doubt Nakamura's son really mattered at that time. If you were held by your former associates of your own company--and who believes that Adam did not start the Company--wouldn't you work to bring them all down? But I don't think Adam wants to dismantle the Company, just put himself back in power.

You can imagine how things fell out. Here's this guy (Adam) who's never going to die, which means he'll outlive any politics within the Company--unless you take him out. My question is, why didn't they cut off his head? Or did they try?

[dlbpharmd]

Heroes creator admits mistakes

[balon!]

At that point, Kring wants to craft a rebooted Heroes that can attract new fans and win back those who've tuned out: ''The message is that we've heard the complaints — and we're doing something about it.''

That's what I like. I don't mind mistakes, as long as they do something about it.

[I'm Murrin]

Could be pretty good, if they're going to get the whole current plot out by mid-season, and then a whole new one in the second half. A lot of american shows seem to suffer because of the long seasons you do over there.

[Wyldewode]

Just watched tonight's episode. . . and it totally rocks! I love how things are tied together. . . with the exception of DL's death. That was incredibly lame.

No new revelations I wish to discuss at this point, though. I need to head off to bed.

[Moxinomal]

I'll agree that DL's death was pretty lame. Oh well, can't win 'em all.

[The Dreaming]

I kind of liked how they teased us with it though. Oh! There he is in the hospital... nope, he lived. Oh! There he is going into a burnign building... nope, he lived. Oh! There he is starting a fight in a club... nope, he... awe that sucks I was hoping Candace or Maury pulled a trick on Nikky. (Actually... Candace was conspicuously absent. Maybe?)

[ItisWritten]

I think DL's death was supposed to be pointless, as the catalyst for Nicki's turning herself over to the Company.

Candace was away nursing Sylar. And now she's not.

[dlbpharmd]

Some questions:

How did Peter survive the explosion?

A nuclear explosion happens just a few miles above and away from NYC, and no one noticed?

No "Four months ago" info on Parkman? Seems like there should've been info on his return to his wife, finding out the baby wasn't his, etc.

Why did DL phase when the bullet was fired?

[Moxinomal]

Some questions:

How did Peter survive the explosion?

Well, my believe is that it is more of an outward explosion from the person as opposed from inside the person. They just emit radiation like an atomic blast instead of being a literal bomb.

A nuclear explosion happens just a few miles above and away from NYC, and no one noticed?

I am sure people noticed. The Orginization probably paid all networks and papers though not to run a story on it (They do have a great amount of money at their disposal).

No "Four months ago" info on Parkman? Seems like there should've been info on his return to his wife, finding out the baby wasn't his, etc.

Yeah, I am sad at the lack of Parkman story in the episode, seeing as how he's my favorite character.

Why did DL phase when the bullet was fired?

I believe that DL's phasing ability has to be triggered by him. Sure, it's easy to phase a punch when you see someone wind back for it. It'd be harder to phase a bullet after you turn around, not noticing the guy had a gun.

Those are just my thoughts though.

[I'm Murrin]

Yeah, I think that's the explanation they were going for--though I did think the guy paused a little too long before pulling the trigger. If it had happened a little bit faster, it would have been more plausible.