First Post---hope I'm getting it right
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First Post---hope I'm getting it right
Greetings All,
It is very heartening to know that there are so many other Thomas Covenant fans out in the multiverse. Over the past week or so I have been lurking and reading many of the interesting (or just plain wacky) explanations, theories, and digressions on the site, and I've just begun!
I first read the 1st Chronicles as a 6th grader--though I was a precocious lad, much of the subtlety went sailing right past me. Now, at age 31, and after having gone through the books at least another 4-5 times, I can say that I'm *still* finding new things, nuances, cross-connections, that I would never have gotten as a tween.
The story is rich and dense with description, and so not for the reader accustomed to fluff [one of the worst experiences of my hobby life--I recommended 1st Chronicles to a friend who dutifully read LFB, criticized it brutally, then tried to tell me how much better DragonLance was because it was more *realistic* fantasy--I've never recommended anything to him again; besides, he prefers PlayStation to reading anyway].
Interestingly, I didn't get around to reading Tolkien until I was in High School, and found the LOTR books a bit too "classical" for my taste. Now, the Peter Jackson movies are compelling--just like any other serious movie that attempts art rather than the typical Hollywood "fantasy" trifle that is little more than a series of encounters in the latest video game (anyone remember the D&D movie? It made me want to bury my dice). But I digress...
Anyway, so how long do we have to wait until we get the Thomas Covenant chronicles in a non-print format? The story is way too intense for a Hollywood treatment, though I would have said the same thing about LOTR. However, I don't think a studio would stand behind such a project, no matter how good the story is, because we would be talking about serious fantasy (read $big fx budget$) with a non-standard movie plot device (anti-hero). Further, I doubt that a movie would have the same impact, since a lot of the pivotal elements in these stories comes from the inner workings of the character's minds. But again, I would have said the same thing about LOTR.
Some old friends and I have a hobby of scripting and recording audio dramas [www.ebonstorms.com], and so I have frequently imagined what the 1st Chronicles might sound like done as audio drama... don't have to worry about your FX budget, and you would thus have a little more latitude in coming up with creative ways to get all those conflicting emotions across.
Well, rather than ramble on for days, just let me say that it's a pleasure to read the postings on this site, and I wish you all many happy readings of the TC Chronicles in the future, and I can't wait until the 3rd Chronicles make it to my local bookstore!
Cheers,
DukkhaWaynhim
It is very heartening to know that there are so many other Thomas Covenant fans out in the multiverse. Over the past week or so I have been lurking and reading many of the interesting (or just plain wacky) explanations, theories, and digressions on the site, and I've just begun!
I first read the 1st Chronicles as a 6th grader--though I was a precocious lad, much of the subtlety went sailing right past me. Now, at age 31, and after having gone through the books at least another 4-5 times, I can say that I'm *still* finding new things, nuances, cross-connections, that I would never have gotten as a tween.
The story is rich and dense with description, and so not for the reader accustomed to fluff [one of the worst experiences of my hobby life--I recommended 1st Chronicles to a friend who dutifully read LFB, criticized it brutally, then tried to tell me how much better DragonLance was because it was more *realistic* fantasy--I've never recommended anything to him again; besides, he prefers PlayStation to reading anyway].
Interestingly, I didn't get around to reading Tolkien until I was in High School, and found the LOTR books a bit too "classical" for my taste. Now, the Peter Jackson movies are compelling--just like any other serious movie that attempts art rather than the typical Hollywood "fantasy" trifle that is little more than a series of encounters in the latest video game (anyone remember the D&D movie? It made me want to bury my dice). But I digress...
Anyway, so how long do we have to wait until we get the Thomas Covenant chronicles in a non-print format? The story is way too intense for a Hollywood treatment, though I would have said the same thing about LOTR. However, I don't think a studio would stand behind such a project, no matter how good the story is, because we would be talking about serious fantasy (read $big fx budget$) with a non-standard movie plot device (anti-hero). Further, I doubt that a movie would have the same impact, since a lot of the pivotal elements in these stories comes from the inner workings of the character's minds. But again, I would have said the same thing about LOTR.
Some old friends and I have a hobby of scripting and recording audio dramas [www.ebonstorms.com], and so I have frequently imagined what the 1st Chronicles might sound like done as audio drama... don't have to worry about your FX budget, and you would thus have a little more latitude in coming up with creative ways to get all those conflicting emotions across.
Well, rather than ramble on for days, just let me say that it's a pleasure to read the postings on this site, and I wish you all many happy readings of the TC Chronicles in the future, and I can't wait until the 3rd Chronicles make it to my local bookstore!
Cheers,
DukkhaWaynhim
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Re: First Post---hope I'm getting it right
DragonLance? You mean the series that was written so badly I thought I could write a better one? Yeh, your friend could not be more wrong -_-Anonymous wrote: The story is rich and dense with description, and so not for the reader accustomed to fluff [one of the worst experiences of my hobby life--I recommended 1st Chronicles to a friend who dutifully read LFB, criticized it brutally, then tried to tell me how much better DragonLance was because it was more *realistic* fantasy--I've never recommended anything to him again; besides, he prefers PlayStation to reading anyway].
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Just don't come around here with your own thoughts, the cliques here don't appreciate individuals. You'll have to agree with them until you become officially included into their little group.
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Sure. We're all wrong and you're right.Zephalephelah wrote:Just don't come around here with your own thoughts, the cliques here don't appreciate individuals. You'll have to agree with them until you become officially included into their little group.
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Zeph, I've stood up for you a couple of times, despite my personal views on some of the things you've said. You're making it harder for me to defend my position.
You're a fan of The Chronicles, so act like it. Remember, "there is also love in this world." There are plenty of Angry Young Men on the 'net, so your views aren't exactly unique (whether or not you're Severian is a question better asked by somebody who can see your IP).
You came here and latched on to a topic you feel strongly about, and I applaud that. Just don't be a one trick pony. Branch out to other subjects; let people know you have something to say worth listening to. "Joy is in the ears that hear..." Otherwise, nobody, not even me, will shed a tear when you're banned.
You're a fan of The Chronicles, so act like it. Remember, "there is also love in this world." There are plenty of Angry Young Men on the 'net, so your views aren't exactly unique (whether or not you're Severian is a question better asked by somebody who can see your IP).
You came here and latched on to a topic you feel strongly about, and I applaud that. Just don't be a one trick pony. Branch out to other subjects; let people know you have something to say worth listening to. "Joy is in the ears that hear..." Otherwise, nobody, not even me, will shed a tear when you're banned.
"It is not the literal past that rules us, save, possibly, in a biological sense. It is images of the past. Each new historical era mirrors itself in the picture and active mythology of its past or of a past borrowed from other cultures. It tests its sense of identity, of regress or new achievement against that past.”
-George Steiner
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