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That's not right - they share the same angle.James wrote:The green triangle has a steeper slope than the red one.
Edit: I think I've worked it out. It's a play on Pythagoras' Theorem.
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Not quite, Lore. 3:8 and 2:5 aren't on the same scale. 22.6 degrees vs 21.8. Still, I'm not convinced that's the reason.
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Just curious, how did you come to that conclusion that the angles are different? I'm not saying that you are wrong, mind you.Murrin wrote:Not quite, Lore. 3:8 and 2:5 aren't on the same scale. 22.6 degrees vs 21.8.
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I'm not really certain.Vain wrote:I think James has a point - the slopes are not the same. But what's your explanation Lore?
Edit: The answer is that the triangles aren't the same.
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...Green triangle has length 5 height 2, red triangle has length 8 height 3Loremaster wrote:That's not right - they share the same angle.James wrote:The green triangle has a steeper slope than the red one.
so the green triangle's hypotinuse slopes up by 1 square every 2.5 squares in length.
red triangle slopes up by 1 square every 2.67 sqares in length.
Doesn't sound like the same angle to me...
As a whole, the first shape bows in, the second bows out.
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When I saw James mention it, I had a closer look, and saw that he was right--if they were the same the red would cross a grid point at 2:5. Counted the squares, then a quick bit of trig gave me the angles (a/b=tanA).Loremaster wrote:Just curious, how did you come to that conclusion that the angles are different? I'm not saying that you are wrong, mind you.Murrin wrote:Not quite, Lore. 3:8 and 2:5 aren't on the same scale. 22.6 degrees vs 21.8.
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For the first one, you're wrong, but the second one - then the red and green triangles diverge slightly.James wrote:...Green triangle has length 5 height 2, red triangle has length 8 height 3Loremaster wrote:That's not right - they share the same angle.James wrote:The green triangle has a steeper slope than the red one.
so the green triangle's hypotinuse slopes up by 1 square every 2.5 squares in length.
red triangle slopes up by 1 square every 2.67 sqares in length.
Doesn't sound like the same angle to me...
As a whole, the first shape bows in, the second bows out.
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I've seen this one before, and Lore's right. I forget the exact details, and maths bores me stiff, but there's a difference in size between the two triangles by about 3% or so (with the bottom one being slightly larger). Primarily, these things are always visual tricks.Loremaster wrote:Edit: The answer is that the triangles aren't the same.Vain wrote:I think James has a point - the slopes are not the same. But what's your explanation Lore?
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The fact is that the second triangle's slope is slightly concave.James wrote:Each individual shape is identical from the first to the second.Loremaster wrote: For the first one, you're wrong, but the second one - then the red and green triangles diverge slightly.
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Hmm I printed the page, cut the pieces out (just to be sure) and damned they still match one on top the other, even with the extra space. It is a puzzler! I got a headache now.
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