I guess there are worse things than having 5 pounds to give from your wee-wee.Cail wrote:It was from his wee-wee.
That would suck, and not in the good, fun way.
Anyone else trying to lose weight?
Moderator: Orlion
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids. ~Gen. Jack D. Ripper
-
DukkhaWaynhim
- The Gap Into Spam
- Posts: 9195
- Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:35 pm
- Location: Deep in thought
I've utterly given up on the 6-pack idea.DukkhaWaynhim wrote:No offense taken. Other than the occasional tennis match, I've never been anything close to athletic, so I'm pleased with myself already, and it just keeps getting better!
I'm not training for marathons, or looking to climb plastic rocks, though- I just want to live a long time, feel good, look good, and have lots of energy. If I can rock that at 175, 180, or 185, that's cool - whatever works. My wish list includes having a six-pack long enough to photograph it for my own personal record book - but I doubt my lifestyle will support a long-term six-pack. Maybe a 2-liter
My main goal is to live long enough to torment my great-grandchildren.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
-
MsMary
- The Gap Into Spam
- Posts: 7126
- Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2002 9:19 pm
- Has thanked: 13 times
- Been thanked: 6 times
There's really no evidence that the timing of when you eat relative to sleep, exercise, or what-have-you makes any difference in how your body metabolizes the food.DukkhaWaynhim wrote:Don't know much about nutrient timing, but it makes sense that your activity just before/after eating would have some effect on how your body treats the latest meal; e.g., I'm a big believer in the no-food-within-3hrs-of-bedtime rule. It worked pretty dramatically for me, and I sleep better because of it.
Benchmark - DW is now consistently below 200lbs! Not too bad for a 6'2" guy, eh? My goal is 180-185, which I am assuming I can achieve and maintain without looking or acting like a man-waif
dw
Whether or not you get enough sleep or exercise does have an effect.
I am a big fan of each person doing what works for you personally.
(As long as it is not dangerous or unhealthy.)
"The Cheat is GROUNDED! We had that lightswitch installed for you so you could turn the lights on and off, not so you could throw lightswitch raves!"
***************************************
- I'm always all right.
- Is all right special Time Lord code for really not all right at all?
- You're all irresponsible fools!
- The Doctor: But we're very experienced irresponsible fools.
__________________________
THOOLAH member since 2005
EZBoard Survivor
***************************************
- I'm always all right.
- Is all right special Time Lord code for really not all right at all?
- You're all irresponsible fools!
- The Doctor: But we're very experienced irresponsible fools.
__________________________
THOOLAH member since 2005
EZBoard Survivor
-
DukkhaWaynhim
- The Gap Into Spam
- Posts: 9195
- Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:35 pm
- Location: Deep in thought
MsMary, it is very possible that following the no-food-within-3hrs-of-bedtime rule is just a different form of calorie restriction - I may essentially be avoiding stuffing my face mindlessly while in front of the television (a typical pre-bedtime activity in our Waymeet).
However, running first thing in the morning before any breakfast, works for me - I have this picture in my head of sleepy fat being shocked back to glycogen to feed the morning run as my glycogen store is more quickly depleted before breakfast. Whether this is biochemically accurate or not is purely speculative... but I like the results I'm getting, so science can bite me.
Cail, I've heard that body type, genetics, and to a much lesser extent, age affects whether one can achieve six-pack abs. I'm 35, and I don't know yet if I'm capable of it - or if its genetic or just my lack of will-power; however, when I flex now, I can see the first hints of a defining ridge in the center. This is heartening. The actual six-pack, however, is still hidden behind a twenty year old layer of Doritos and PizzaHut ...but I'm working on it.
dw
However, running first thing in the morning before any breakfast, works for me - I have this picture in my head of sleepy fat being shocked back to glycogen to feed the morning run as my glycogen store is more quickly depleted before breakfast. Whether this is biochemically accurate or not is purely speculative... but I like the results I'm getting, so science can bite me.
Cail, I've heard that body type, genetics, and to a much lesser extent, age affects whether one can achieve six-pack abs. I'm 35, and I don't know yet if I'm capable of it - or if its genetic or just my lack of will-power; however, when I flex now, I can see the first hints of a defining ridge in the center. This is heartening. The actual six-pack, however, is still hidden behind a twenty year old layer of Doritos and PizzaHut
...but I'm working on it.dw
"God is real, unless declared integer." - Unknown
The ab muscles are there, and I probably do have a 6-pack under there somewhere. I just can't get the left-over flab and skin to go away.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
-
DukkhaWaynhim
- The Gap Into Spam
- Posts: 9195
- Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:35 pm
- Location: Deep in thought
Sources like Mens Health give the impression that all us guys (who are not sessile) have a six-pack, if only we can lose enough body fat to uncover them. The problem is that if we are either an exomorph with an average amount of body fat, or any type of mesomorph or endomorph with >2% body fat, then we have little chance of partially or totally uncovering them.
...and only cover models have the time and impetus to get down to 1-2% body fat - because it is their JOB.
The rest of us are SOL.
dw
...and only cover models have the time and impetus to get down to 1-2% body fat - because it is their JOB.
The rest of us are SOL.
dw
"God is real, unless declared integer." - Unknown
-
MsMary
- The Gap Into Spam
- Posts: 7126
- Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2002 9:19 pm
- Has thanked: 13 times
- Been thanked: 6 times
That's exactly what I mean when I say you have to do what works for you.DukkhaWaynhim wrote:MsMary, it is very possible that following the no-food-within-3hrs-of-bedtime rule is just a different form of calorie restriction - I may essentially be avoiding stuffing my face mindlessly while in front of the television (a typical pre-bedtime activity in our Waymeet).
However, running first thing in the morning before any breakfast, works for me - I have this picture in my head of sleepy fat being shocked back to glycogen to feed the morning run as my glycogen store is more quickly depleted before breakfast. Whether this is biochemically accurate or not is purely speculative... but I like the results I'm getting, so science can bite me.
I would think age would affect it more than genetics, but I haven't looked at that in detail anywhere.DukkhaWaynhim wrote:Cail, I've heard that body type, genetics, and to a much lesser extent, age affects whether one can achieve six-pack abs. I'm 35, and I don't know yet if I'm capable of it - or if its genetic or just my lack of will-power; however, when I flex now, I can see the first hints of a defining ridge in the center. This is heartening. The actual six-pack, however, is still hidden behind a twenty year old layer of Doritos and PizzaHut
dw
"The Cheat is GROUNDED! We had that lightswitch installed for you so you could turn the lights on and off, not so you could throw lightswitch raves!"
***************************************
- I'm always all right.
- Is all right special Time Lord code for really not all right at all?
- You're all irresponsible fools!
- The Doctor: But we're very experienced irresponsible fools.
__________________________
THOOLAH member since 2005
EZBoard Survivor
***************************************
- I'm always all right.
- Is all right special Time Lord code for really not all right at all?
- You're all irresponsible fools!
- The Doctor: But we're very experienced irresponsible fools.
__________________________
THOOLAH member since 2005
EZBoard Survivor
-
MsMary
- The Gap Into Spam
- Posts: 7126
- Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2002 9:19 pm
- Has thanked: 13 times
- Been thanked: 6 times
Cail wrote:The ab muscles are there, and I probably do have a 6-pack under there somewhere. I just can't get the left-over flab and skin to go away.
"The Cheat is GROUNDED! We had that lightswitch installed for you so you could turn the lights on and off, not so you could throw lightswitch raves!"
***************************************
- I'm always all right.
- Is all right special Time Lord code for really not all right at all?
- You're all irresponsible fools!
- The Doctor: But we're very experienced irresponsible fools.
__________________________
THOOLAH member since 2005
EZBoard Survivor
***************************************
- I'm always all right.
- Is all right special Time Lord code for really not all right at all?
- You're all irresponsible fools!
- The Doctor: But we're very experienced irresponsible fools.
__________________________
THOOLAH member since 2005
EZBoard Survivor
Laugh away.....If I had a few thousand dollars burning a hole in my pocket, I'd run to a plastic surgeon to remove the excess skin so I could show off all the work I've done!
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
-
aliantha
- blueberries on steroids
- Posts: 17865
- Joined: Tue Mar 05, 2002 7:50 pm
- Location: NOT opening up a restaurant in Santa Fe
You think *you've* got excess skin?? When I get to where I need to be, I may be putting some plastic surgeon's kid through college....
EZ Board Survivor
"Dreaming isn't good for you unless you do the things it tells you to." -- Three Dog Night (via the GI)
https://www.hearth-myth.com/
I'm kicking myself for not embarking on this fitness kick 10 years ago, back when my skin was still elastic.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
-
DukkhaWaynhim
- The Gap Into Spam
- Posts: 9195
- Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:35 pm
- Location: Deep in thought
Very true.
Ahhhh, youth is wasted on the young.
Ahhhh, youth is wasted on the young.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
_____________
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
_____________
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
-
emotional leper
- The Gap Into Spam
- Posts: 4787
- Joined: Tue May 29, 2007 4:54 am
- Location: Hell. I'm Living in Hell.
Cail, it wouldn't matter that much if you were younger. If you have a significant amount of extra skin from being fat (like having an apron), then even if you came down to 10% body fat, you would still have an excess of skin after your skin 'shrank' back to normal.Cail wrote:
I'm kicking myself for not embarking on this fitness kick 10 years ago, back when my skin was still elastic.
B&
-
DukkhaWaynhim
- The Gap Into Spam
- Posts: 9195
- Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:35 pm
- Location: Deep in thought
So am I mistaken in thinking that small to moderate amounts of excess skin will 'go away' over time as it is no longer needed? I know people who immediately start chatting up the plastic surgeons after they've made their big bariatric surgery losses - but I had the impression that at least some of that excess skin would go away on its own, given time.
dw
dw
"God is real, unless declared integer." - Unknown
-
emotional leper
- The Gap Into Spam
- Posts: 4787
- Joined: Tue May 29, 2007 4:54 am
- Location: Hell. I'm Living in Hell.
Some will.DukkhaWaynhim wrote:So am I mistaken in thinking that small to moderate amounts of excess skin will 'go away' over time as it is no longer needed? I know people who immediately start chatting up the plastic surgeons after they've made their big bariatric surgery losses - but I had the impression that at least some of that excess skin would go away on its own, given time.
dw
Most of it might.
All of it will not.
It also depends on what you consider 'small to moderate.'
B&
-
MsMary
- The Gap Into Spam
- Posts: 7126
- Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2002 9:19 pm
- Has thanked: 13 times
- Been thanked: 6 times
Yeah, try having a baby or two. 
The skin on my abdomen will never go back to the way it was in my youth, no matter how much I exercise.
However, I would settle with losing some of that abdominal fat, so I look and feel better. And it's healthier to lose that fat in the long run.
And Cail, I wasn't really laughing at you. I was laughing with you. I totally empathize with the sentiment you expressed in your post.
The skin on my abdomen will never go back to the way it was in my youth, no matter how much I exercise.However, I would settle with losing some of that abdominal fat, so I look and feel better. And it's healthier to lose that fat in the long run.
And Cail, I wasn't really laughing at you. I was laughing with you.
I totally empathize with the sentiment you expressed in your post."The Cheat is GROUNDED! We had that lightswitch installed for you so you could turn the lights on and off, not so you could throw lightswitch raves!"
***************************************
- I'm always all right.
- Is all right special Time Lord code for really not all right at all?
- You're all irresponsible fools!
- The Doctor: But we're very experienced irresponsible fools.
__________________________
THOOLAH member since 2005
EZBoard Survivor
***************************************
- I'm always all right.
- Is all right special Time Lord code for really not all right at all?
- You're all irresponsible fools!
- The Doctor: But we're very experienced irresponsible fools.
__________________________
THOOLAH member since 2005
EZBoard Survivor
-
bloodguard bob
- Bloodguard
- Posts: 964
- Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:24 pm
- Location: A chair by the river.
Ok, drastic lifestyle change is now being enforced that should lead the way to weight reduction.
I got a job in the city in which I live so I have chosen to ride my bike to work but weight loss is secondary behind the $20/day to park downtown and I can never find parking again when I return home.
Also it's so busy at work I don't have time to eat and the job is such an ass buster I don't really feel like it anyway. This coupled with the fact that I'm too bushed to cook a mess of food when I get home and so tired I go to bed around 9:30 so I'm unable snack my face off late at night may lead to gettin' skinny again.
I am a bit concerned with the skin/stretch mark issue since I put the weight on so quickly and may take it off pretty fast but health before beauty I figure.
I got a job in the city in which I live so I have chosen to ride my bike to work but weight loss is secondary behind the $20/day to park downtown and I can never find parking again when I return home.
Also it's so busy at work I don't have time to eat and the job is such an ass buster I don't really feel like it anyway. This coupled with the fact that I'm too bushed to cook a mess of food when I get home and so tired I go to bed around 9:30 so I'm unable snack my face off late at night may lead to gettin' skinny again.
I am a bit concerned with the skin/stretch mark issue since I put the weight on so quickly and may take it off pretty fast but health before beauty I figure.
"...and if you do not listen, then to hell with you."
-
DukkhaWaynhim
- The Gap Into Spam
- Posts: 9195
- Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:35 pm
- Location: Deep in thought
Well, some of the pregnant ladies I know swear by special moisturizer creams that are for reducing the look of stretch marks--- what I don't know is if this works after the stretching has already occurred. If this becomes an issue, eventually I'll be able to tell you one way or the other...
dw
dw
"God is real, unless declared integer." - Unknown