Jeremiah built Lost Deep....?

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Jeremiah built Lost Deep....?

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Rereading ROTE instead of studying pharm this morning and I noticed the following description on page 34:
The whole edifice was at once enormously elaborate, thick with details like balconies and bartizans, and perfectly symmetrical, balanced in all its parts. Its strangeness in her entryway, a pedestrian place intended for the most ordinary use, gave it an eldritch quality, almost an evanescence, as though some faery castle had been half translated from its own magical realm, and could be discerned by its outlines in slim rods and wheels like a glimpse into another dimension of being.
Maybe I'm clutching at straws, but that paragraph stands out a hell of a lot more now than it did before I read FR the first time and the Lost Deep became a discussion point. If the Viles really did have a whole civilization at Lost Deep (I don't have time to look for the description in FR at the moment), doesn't that sound a lot like the kind of castle the Viles/Demondim would have been associated with?
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Very much so, Seppi. I've always thought that construct would become important in some (possibly symbolic) way...

And even if Jere didn't build the Deep (which of course is said to have been built by the Viles), it may have some significance related to where he is now.

Or it may be an important part of the entire set of structures he built that day... the castle, Revelstone, and Mt. Thunder. Linden only thinks about the 2 she recognizes, and this one has essentially been forgotten, but maybe he's trying to tell her more. Also of interest is that she told him to take the two down, but to leave the castle.

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Nice catch, Seppi! I've been wondering what that castle that J built in Linden's home was supposed to be.
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Relayer, I'm not saying he built the REAL Lost Deep, but I think he built a model of it. I'm curious why Linden lets it stand too.
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Cool idea, Seppi2112. This is a description of the castle Jeremiah built in the entryway, right? (Sorry, don't have my books with me.) Did he take that one down voluntarily, or was it still standing?

And if the castle is representative of something, (like Lost Deep) what about the contsruct he built with the race tracks in his room? (Or am I misremembering and these are the same thing?)
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No, you're right on both counts and they're both still standing. The castle in the entryway feels like Lost Deep, but the race tracks in his room (with all their loops and curves and the Mobius loop aspect) seem like a reference to the Arch of Time maybe? I dunno, but that's what I suspect.
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Yep. And I suspect Jere/croyel told the truth about the racetrack - when he built it he found that he'd created a portal to the Land. I'm not sure how that relates to the Arch but I guess we'll find out ;-)
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Now that's the sort of ideas I come to this forum for!!! Brilliant! It makes me think of other discussions where people ask why didn't the Creator appear to Linden before she was sent to the Land this time.. And other people have (in completely unrelated areas) suggested Jeremiah is (or will be) some sort of New Creator or something... So if you put it all together you may come up with some sort of answer...

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Seppi2112 wrote:No, you're right on both counts and they're both still standing. The castle in the entryway feels like Lost Deep, but the race tracks in his room (with all their loops and curves and the Mobius loop aspect) seem like a reference to the Arch of Time maybe? I dunno, but that's what I suspect.
It may be a small point, but I'm positive Roger smashed the hallway castle and maybe the racetrack arch when he came to kidnap J.
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When we dissected this chapter, this paragraph caught my attention. The phrases that Donaldson chose seem to say pretty directly that Jeremiah has information about the Land.

As for what his structures represent, though, I don't think we have enough information to speculate. Or maybe they don't represent anything other than a demonstration of Jeremiah's building talent.
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Roger smashed the castle but left the racetrack alone.
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