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Wyldewode wrote:I was going to say that I'm of Jewish ancestry (but not of ethnicity). My great grandmother was a Jacobs (and according to my grandfather some of her family were practicing Jews), but she was raised a protestant. Unfortunately she died back 1989 and we have very little information about her family. My grandfather died last September, so even that source of info is gone too.

Anyhow, though I am not Jewish in any way other than by blood (and yes, I know that technically I do not qualify since my grandmother wasn't of Jewish blood), I do have great respect for Jewish ways. :)
Technically, since we follow matrilineal descent, depending on if it was your grandmother or grandfather who was the child of this great-grandmother, and if it was your grandmother, if it was your maternal grandmother, then you could still be Jewish if you desire to be, ~Lyr.

...man, that even reads confusing to me...

In other words...

If your mom's mom's mom was this great grandmother, and she was born a Jew, then you would be considered a Jew.
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Cool Balon! What style or artists?

I like Poogy and Subliminal.
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Menolly wrote: I like Poogy
Do you mean Kaveret? Because your link, above, takes me to a screensaver or something.

I love Kaveret - they were current when I was living in Israel - the band has long since broken up. The songs are funny, and even funnier if you understand Hebrew, cause many of the lyrics are plays on words.

I listen to a lot of Israeli dance music.
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Menolly wrote:
Technically, since we follow matrilineal descent, depending on if it was your grandmother or grandfather who was the child of this great-grandmother, and if it was your grandmother, if it was your maternal grandmother, then you could still be Jewish if you desire to be, ~Lyr.

...man, that even reads confusing to me...

In other words...

If your mom's mom's mom was this great grandmother, and she was born a Jew, then you would be considered a Jew.
No, it was my mother's father. :)
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MsMary wrote:
Menolly wrote: I like Poogy
Do you mean Kaveret? Because your link, above, takes me to a screensaver or something.

I love Kaveret - they were current when I was living in Israel - the band has long since broken up. The songs are funny, and even funnier if you understand Hebrew, cause many of the lyrics are plays on words.

I listen to a lot of Israeli dance music.
*nodding*

Yep.

One and the same.

Sorry the link isn't working.

*wondering if Syl has any favorite Israeli groups*
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Happy Purim, folks!

(Or "Purim Sameah"? I just feel awkward saying it that way when I'm not actually familiar with what I'm saying...)
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Hag Purim Sameah, I think.
(Purim is a Hag, although like Hanukkah, not biblical in origin, right Ms.Mary?)
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Purim Sameach is fine to say.

Purim is a fun, but minor, holiday. :biggrin:
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Menolly wrote:Hag Purim Sameah, I think.
(Purim is a Hag,
Which brings up an interesting point... uhh, what's a "Hag"? ;)
menolly wrote: although like Hanukkah, not biblical in origin, right Ms.Mary?)
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FYI, Christians actually consider the book of Esther to be part of scripture! (though I was searching the bible.ort.org site you gave, and yup, couldn't find any of the words Esther/Purim/Haman in it)
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Hag is applied to major holidays, Rosh HaShannah, Yon Kippur, the first and last two days of Pesah, etc. Generally the days when we treat them similar to Shabbes, i.e, no cooking, use of electricity, etc. Neither Purim nor Hanukkah are that type of holiday, they're more festivals which is why I was hesitant if Hag is used.

Now during the intermediary days of Pesah, we say mo'adim la simcha instead of Hag Sameah. So I wonder if that is more appropriate during festivals. I really don't know offhand though...
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Menolly wrote:Hag is applied to major holidays, Rosh HaShannah, Yon Kippur, the first and last two days of Pesah, etc. Generally the days when we treat them similar to Shabbes, i.e, no cooking, use of electricity, etc. Neither Purim nor Hanukkah are that type of holiday, they're more festivals which is why I was hesitant if Hag is used.

Now during the intermediary days of Pesah, we say mo'adim la simcha instead of Hag Sameah. So I wonder if that is more appropriate during festivals. I really don't know offhand though...
I'm really interested in learning more about this, but I didn't understand half of what was written... Could someone please explain this to me?
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Thank you.
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You are quite welcome. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. :)
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I will. :)
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I now have a question: What year is it? (I know why the years are different, I just don't know which year it is in the Jewish calendar...)
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Today is 19th of Adar II, in the year 5768.

It's Adar II because it's a Leap Year this year in the Hebrew calendar. Every now and then we stick in a second month of Adar to bring our lunar calendar closer to the solar year.

I use Hebcal, a Jewish calendar site to get information about the Hebrew date (and I also have Hebrew calendars hanging on my fridge. :biggrin: )
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Cool, thanks. :)
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Shabbat Shalom! See you tomorrow after dark! :)
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Hey.

Does not Easter coincide with Passover?

I always thought it did; but this year (an Early Easter) there was no mention of Passover.

So when IS passover this year?

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drew wrote:Hey.

Does not Easter coincide with Passover?

I always thought it did; but this year (an Early Easter) there was no mention of Passover.

So when IS passover this year?

I want my Ten Comandments!!!
Same as it always is, the 15th through the 22nd of Nisan...

:twisted:

As Ms.Mary explained above, we are in a Jewish leap year, where we add a full extra month, Addar II, to the calendar. So this year Passover is a month later than the Roman Catholic Easter.

I am unsure when Orthodox Easter is this year, but it wouldn't surprise me if it fell closer to Passover.

First seder this year falls on sunset, April 19th.
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