JemCheeta wrote:Fred the Despiser is just awesome. How about if we tone down the whole thing?
"Listen Steve, our focus groups show that some people react a little..... well, negatively to the intensity of your names. Try this on for size: "Thomas the not-quite-convinced, but still open to discussion."
Starkin wrote:
One of my personal favorite SRD words is one that he has said he dislikes now: Elemesnedene, the Land of the Elohim. It just sounds so magical and otherworldly (if you can manage to pronounce it); it feels like it's partly made of the words "element" (Earthpower?) and "demesne", a dominion or territory.
I agree, it's a great word, exactly for the reasons you stated. SRD doesn't like it anymore? I'm saddened to hear that.
matrixman wrote:Names in the Chronicles don't bother me.
Starkin wrote:One of my personal favorite SRD words is one that he has said he dislikes now: Elemesnedene, the Land of the Elohim. It just sounds so magical and otherworldly (if you can manage to pronounce it); it feels like it's partly made of the words "element" (Earthpower?) and "demesne", a dominion or territory.
I agree, it's a great word, exactly for the reasons you stated. SRD doesn't like it anymore? I'm saddened to hear that.
Well, sorry guys, but I am glad SRD sees the error of the ways of his youth. It is probably the ONLY word in the series that I actually HATE. Mainly because I try to pronounce things in my head. (do you know how many times I that word comes up in TOT?) But also because of this:
Me: *complains about how the last part of the word sounds like "demesne" but is "messed-up" ...misshapen and chaotic.*
My husband: I think it's supposed to have that messed-up-ness.
Note that I made this entire post w/out typing that word out. You know why, folks? If I did, I would probably break out in sores or at least a cold sweat. If something absolutely necessitated its repetition, at least there's copy-paste.
(Okay, so maybe that last bit is just "it's late and I'm carrying things a bit too far!")
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"People without hope not only don't write novels, but what is more to the point, they don't read them.
They don't take long looks at anything, because they lack the courage.
The way to despair is to refuse to have any kind of experience, and the novel, of course, is a way to have experience."
-Flannery O'Connor
"In spite of much that militates against quietness there are people who still read books. They are the people who keep me going."
-Elisabeth Elliot, Preface, "A Chance to Die: The Life and Legacy of Amy Carmichael"
Heh, I like that word too. But I almost never try to figure out how these words are pronounced. I guess that gives me one less reason to have an issue with them.
All lies and jest
Still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest -Paul Simon
Farm Ur-Ted wrote:I'm pretty sure you guys are spelling it wrong, anyway. I think it's easy as hell to pronounce when you spell it right.
It's spelled right. Just looked it up in TOT: Elemesnedene. I guess it's kind of scary that I didn't look it up at all the first time I typed it. That word has always stuck in my head. That and Bhrathairealm. There's just something about those italic names... and most of the names in TOT.
And yes, I also see Elemesnedene as "misshapen and chaotic" when you look at it's constituent parts. It's truly the epitome of a crazy SRD word.
"Ah, my daughter, do not fear. You will not fail, however he may assail you. There is also love in the world. Be true."
I love SRD's names. I especially loved the look on his face when Julie asked him why he would name a charactor Soranal pronounced Sore Anal. That was a priceless moment in FBH history.
Now if I could just find a way to wear live bees as jewelry all the time.....
In the German translation some of the names are translated as well.. its quite ok for the giants and i am glad that the Haruchai and Ranyhyns names are the same as in the OV..but Drool e.g. is tranlated as "seibrich"
Cameraman Jenn wrote:I love SRD's names. I especially loved the look on his face when Julie asked him why he would name a charactor Soranal pronounced Sore Anal. That was a priceless moment in FBH history.
LOL your kidding me?? hahahaha,
during Elohimefest?
hahahah i think i will keep my misguided pronunciation of So ran el
I don't care if he named the Ravers Huey, Louie, and Dewey. It's the story that counts, and I'd not think any differently of the outcome if he did. All hail SRD. And I am dying to know his reaction to the Soranal question. I always pronounced it (in my head) Sore-uh-NAL, emphasis on last syllable, short A sound. Julie, you are brave.........
Heard my ears aright? Did not the gaddhi grant me this glaive?
One must have strength to judge the weakness of others. I am not so mighty. Lord Mhoram in TIW
matrixman wrote:Names in the Chronicles don't bother me.
Starkin wrote:
One of my personal favorite SRD words is one that he has said he dislikes now: Elemesnedene, the Land of the Elohim. It just sounds so magical and otherworldly (if you can manage to pronounce it); it feels like it's partly made of the words "element" (Earthpower?) and "demesne", a dominion or territory.
I agree, it's a great word, exactly for the reasons you stated. SRD doesn't like it anymore? I'm saddened to hear that.
hmmm ive always said it Elemnesdine. probably because my first reading was at 14 and it sounded right at the time.. oh well..since SRD hates it i guess i will keep my pronunciation for this one too.
THe only name, I didn't like, was Kelenbranbanal (sp?)...I know..I know..it kind of soaunds like horses whinnying...which is cool...but its such a hard word to pronounce..it always slows me down when I'm reading.
I thought you were a ripe grape
a cabernet sauvignon
a bottle in the cellar
the kind you keep for a really long time
Bob Landwaster. Bob the Unbeliever. Bob the despiser.
"Can we desecrate it? Yes, we can!!"
Well, then how about Joe Landwaster... Bill Rockworm... Fred the Despiser. Okay, mebbe not.
ROTFLMAO That was AWESOME!!!
Anyway, back on topic...
Actually, as much as I like the names in the TC series, I also really dig the names in the GAP series. Yeah, I know there's arguably not as much "mythology" that goes into it as in TCoTC. (Although he does bring in various aspects of Norse mythology in different names.)
But I LOVE the fact that the very first thing he came up with for the series was the names (Angus Thermopyle, Morn Hyland, Nick Succorso), and that the story evolved afterward. I always thought that was kinda cool.
"When in doubt, make a fool of yourself. There is a microscopically thin line between being brilliantly creative and acting like the most gigantic idiot on Earth. So what the hell, leap" -Cynthia Heimel