The one stone.
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The one stone.
We know that the original staff of law was created from the one tree, and linden's new one has essence of the one tree within it (vain's arm turned to wood when he touched the tree). But what of the one stone?
We know that the orcrest was part of it, as the staff is apart of the tree, but we have no info about the one stone itself.
Anyone have any thoughts or think its gonne come up in the future?
We know that the orcrest was part of it, as the staff is apart of the tree, but we have no info about the one stone itself.
Anyone have any thoughts or think its gonne come up in the future?
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Some people have made the mistake of seeing Donaldson's work as a load of rubbish about imaginary places, but clever people like me, who talk loudly in restaurants, see this as a deliberate ambiguity, a plea for understanding in a mechanized world. The points are frozen, the Sandgorgon is dead. What is the difference? What indeed is the point? The point is frozen, the Sandgorgon is late getting to the Sandhold. The point is taken. If Starfare's Gem would spurn Lord Mhoram, the wheel deck must be our head, the Coercri our esophagus, the granite keel our left lung, the center mast our shins, the First's compartment the piece of skin at the nape of the neck and the Grieve a sleepy Elohim called Simon. The clarity is devastating. But where is the ambiguity? It's over there in a box. Donaldson is saying the Raver from the Shattered Plains when in reality he means the Forestall from Morinmoss. The Arch is the same only the time is altered. Ecce homo, ergo elk. Terry Brooks knew his sister and knew her bloody well. The point is taken, the Sandgorgon is moulting, the fluff gets up your nose. The illusion is complete; it is reality, the reality is illusion and the ambiguity is the only truth. But is the truth, as Hitchcock observes, in the box? No there isn't room, the ambiguity has put on weight. The point is taken, the Merewives are dead, the Sandgorgon stops for lunch, Foul stops at nothing, I'm having treatment and Donaldson can get knotted.
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Word!High Lord Tolkien wrote:Some people have made the mistake of seeing Donaldson's work as a load of rubbish about imaginary places, but clever people like me, who talk loudly in restaurants, see this as a deliberate ambiguity, a plea for understanding in a mechanized world. The points are frozen, the Sandgorgon is dead. What is the difference? What indeed is the point? The point is frozen, the Sandgorgon is late getting to the Sandhold. The point is taken. If Starfare's Gem would spurn Lord Mhoram, the wheel deck must be our head, the Coercri our esophagus, the granite keel our left lung, the center mast our shins, the First's compartment the piece of skin at the nape of the neck and the Grieve a sleepy Elohim called Simon. The clarity is devastating. But where is the ambiguity? It's over there in a box. Donaldson is saying the Raver from the Shattered Plains when in reality he means the Forestall from Morinmoss. The Arch is the same only the time is altered. Ecce homo, ergo elk. Terry Brroks knew his sister and knew her bloody well. The point is taken, the Sandgorgon is moulting, the fluff gets up your nose. The illusion is complete; it is reality, the reality is illusion and the ambiguity is the only truth. But is the truth, as Hitchcock observes, in the box? No there isn't room, the ambiguity has put on weight. The point is taken, the Merewives are dead, the Sandgorgon stops for lunch, Foul stops at nothing, I'm having treatment and Donaldson can get knotted.
I find this thread interesting, especially considering that I started an almost identical one several months ago. Check it out, it's at the bottom of page two of FR posts called "The One Rock."
Also, I asked SRD a question about this issue back in March, as UrDead intimated. That question and answer went like this...question:
Mr. Moore:
Steve,
I almost hate to bother you with such a trifle, but this is really bothering me at the moment. I swear to The Maker that I read this in The Illearth War recently upon a re-read, but for the life of me I can't find where I think I read it.
Does the gem of the krill originate from a piece of the One Stone? I'm almost certain mention was made of a One Stone (I remember being shocked to read it due to certain events from Fatal Revenant), but I can't find it. Maybe this reference was in connection to the orcrest that was given to Covenant in that same book? But it seems that the orcrest is the rock equivalent of the lomillialor, a descendant of the One Tree, not a piece of the original like the Staff of Law.
Can you confirm or deny this for me?
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answer:
Trees grow, mutate, have descendants. Rocks melt, fuse, get torn apart and recombined. I would hate to limit my narrative options by saying, "Yes, the gem of the krill is a piece of the One Stone [Rock, whatever: One of Something]." But surely it's fair to say that the krill's gem--and orcrest--are descended in some sense from the archetypal concept of *stone*. Like lomillialor, they express or exemplify ideas and powers larger than themselves.
Also, I asked SRD a question about this issue back in March, as UrDead intimated. That question and answer went like this...question:
Mr. Moore:
Steve,
I almost hate to bother you with such a trifle, but this is really bothering me at the moment. I swear to The Maker that I read this in The Illearth War recently upon a re-read, but for the life of me I can't find where I think I read it.
Does the gem of the krill originate from a piece of the One Stone? I'm almost certain mention was made of a One Stone (I remember being shocked to read it due to certain events from Fatal Revenant), but I can't find it. Maybe this reference was in connection to the orcrest that was given to Covenant in that same book? But it seems that the orcrest is the rock equivalent of the lomillialor, a descendant of the One Tree, not a piece of the original like the Staff of Law.
Can you confirm or deny this for me?
Hail,
Mr. Moore
answer:
Trees grow, mutate, have descendants. Rocks melt, fuse, get torn apart and recombined. I would hate to limit my narrative options by saying, "Yes, the gem of the krill is a piece of the One Stone [Rock, whatever: One of Something]." But surely it's fair to say that the krill's gem--and orcrest--are descended in some sense from the archetypal concept of *stone*. Like lomillialor, they express or exemplify ideas and powers larger than themselves.
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napua wrote:FWIW, I really enjoyed this much more than the original Monty Python John Cleese critic's rant it was based on - and/or inspired by.
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There was never any reference to any "One Stone", the source of orcrest/krill gem in any of the TC books.
The books didn't really say where Loric found the materials to make the
krill either, or where he got the knowledge to do so.
The books didn't really say where Loric found the materials to make the
krill either, or where he got the knowledge to do so.
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You're right about one thing, no mention was ever made about how Loric made the krill.
But there is a reference to the One Stone (or One Rock) in TIW. I don't have the book to find it again, but I know I quoted it in my thread on this same subject: "The One Rock".
You're right about one thing, no mention was ever made about how Loric made the krill.
But there is a reference to the One Stone (or One Rock) in TIW. I don't have the book to find it again, but I know I quoted it in my thread on this same subject: "The One Rock".
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I actually just started this here thread in 1st/2nd Chrons yesterday (3 months later)...thanks for the info peeps.
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Re: The one stone.
Actually, lomillialor is called "wood of the One Wood", related to the wood of the One Tree, as orcrest is related to the One Rock.Fullmetal660 wrote:We know that the original staff of law was created from the one tree, and linden's new one has essence of the one tree within it (vain's arm turned to wood when he touched the tree). But what of the one stone?
We know that the orcrest was part of it, as the staff is apart of the tree, but we have no info about the one stone itself.
Anyone have any thoughts or think its gonne come up in the future?
Maybe the peril of the Skurj is that they will desecrate the One Rock, causing a Sunbane-like effect?