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Which would most closely define you

Christian
15
33%
Jewish
0
No votes
Atheist
11
24%
Agnostic
8
17%
Buddhist
1
2%
Hindu
0
No votes
Muslim
0
No votes
Wiccan
2
4%
Other
9
20%
 
Total votes: 46

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Christian.
I'm the son of a preacher-man.

There are some fundimentals of Christianity that I DON'T beleive in...the largest being that I don't beleive in God the Father...or at least I don't beleive that we are made in the image of ANY diety.
I DO however beleive that Jesus walked the Earth, and was pretty much what he said he was (although I also beleive the same about Budha and Mohammud)
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Jenn Zooist. Be kind to everyone and animals although some animals should be eaten. :P
Now if I could just find a way to wear live bees as jewelry all the time.....

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drew wrote:
Chrysalis wrote:... I was brought up Christian and went to a RC school.
*would like to see some pics of Chrys in a catholic scool uniform!!*
*high fives drew*
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Christian - Was brought up southern Baptist but Im non-denominational Christian now.
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Reformed Christian. X-agnostic. Full-fledged atheist now . . . though I still think something "magical" is going on in this universe, something that inspires religious belief in the first place. I think we might be god slowly forming. At the very least, we are the universe waking up to itself.

I use scare-quotes around "magical" because I do not believe in anything supernatural. I do, however, think that matter is a lot more strange and "mystical" than we presently believe. But even that strangeness will eventually be explicable in a scientific manner.
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I'm surprised by the number of people who voted "other." Hm. I am an agnostic, by the way.
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Post by Menolly »

I was torn...
I still observe the traditions of the Jewish holidays, but feel my leanings towards the teachings of Jewitchery were strong enough to mark it as "other." It is grounded in kabbalah though, so I could have gone either way I guess...
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Lord Mhoram wrote:I'm surprised by the number of people who voted "other."
Same here. I'm also scratching my head for an obvious example of "other" that is eluding me.
Avatar wrote:But then, the answers provided by your imagination are not only sometimes best, but have the added advantage of being unable to be wrong.
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balon! wrote:I'm also scratching my head for an obvious example of "other" that is eluding me.
Hey Fist.
Is Taoism a religion?
I think it was at one time, but don't know if it is still considered such.

How about Shinto, balon?
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Indifferent agnostic.
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Menolly wrote:Hey Fist.
Is Taoism a religion?
I think it was at one time, but don't know if it is still considered such.

How about Shinto, balon?
Ahh.... yeah. Now it clicks in place.

Scientology would be another.
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I selected other for reasons somewhat similar to Malik's, but not exactly. There is much not explainable now that will eventually be explained, but I have a suspicion that there are things that happen/can be done that are natural (not from god or ghosts or magic) yet non-rational. The best I've been able to explain this to myself is that they are possibilities/occurences that happen in the gaps. (like the gap between the quantum and general relativity..though this one will likely be solved) I'm a big fan of logic/reason, but I'm also hypersensitive to the fact that logic and reason have limits (a guy named Godel is on-point here..the o should have an umlaut (hah..which also should))
Anyway...when the topic comes up, I tell people I'm a mystic atheist...which makes them laugh, become irate, become confused, call me crazy, or start a conversation...all of which are acceptable outcomes.
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Jeff wrote:mystic atheist
:lol: I love it! Welcome aboard, Jeff!
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Jeff, I've posted quite a bit about Godel and the implications his famous theorem holds for consciousness. Last year I read Shadows of the Mind by Roger Penrose, in which he argued that our consciousness is non-algorithmic, and can't be produced or even simulated by a computer (at least not Turing machines . . . it will take some kind of computer that we haven't even imagined yet). Perhaps this "non-algorithmic" nature of consciousness is close to what you mean by "non-rational." That fact that we can understand Godel's Incompleteness theorem means we are doing something beyond axiomatic systems, something that no logical system can capture.
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Cybrweez wrote:I hesitate to vote. The labels have different meanings to everyone. And, they may be used later to prove a point...
I do recall someone mentioning the "overwhelmingly atheist makeup of the Watch" on another thread...and I'll let it go at that :biggrin: :twisted:
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Malik23 wrote:Jeff, I've posted quite a bit about Godel and the implications his famous theorem holds for consciousness.
I'm going to have to try and track those posts down.
Last year I read Shadows of the Mind by Roger Penrose...
I haven't followed Penrose in forever...I wonder how I forgot about him...is the book as interesting as you make it sound?
Perhaps this "non-algorithmic" nature of consciousness is close to what you mean by "non-rational."
It sounds like it could be from the snippet here. I think you just gave me a new book to put on my xmas list (my lists are always entirely made up of coffee and books)

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In principle agnostic, but voted atheist because I have actively spoken out against any religion I have met so far.
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Jeff wrote:
Malik23 wrote:Jeff, I've posted quite a bit about Godel and the implications his famous theorem holds for consciousness.
I'm going to have to try and track those posts down.
I found one thread, here, but it seems like there is another one about artificial intelligence. I started with the 4th page, because the thread drifted into this territory on that page.
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Jedi.
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