Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen

[Loredoctor]

Okay, the first one wasn't a masterpiece but I really enjoyed it. Enjoy the high definition trailer for the sequel.

au.youtube.com/watch?v=7dRzK6qRO5U

[Worm of Despite]

Yay, more stupid bullshit from Michael Bay.

[Rigel]

Okay, the first one wasn't a masterpiece

You take that back right now!

It was easily one of the best films of the DECADE!

Anyway, YouTube's blocked here at work, so I'll have to wait 3 more hours until I can watch this at home

[Rigel]

Woah, I didn't mean to sound so harsh - sorry about that. I just haven't gotten much sleep lately, so my judgment was a little clouded when I wrote that

Anyway, I saw the trailer, and loved it! Can't wait for this to come out

[Kevin164]

From the looks of the face plate of the massive motor cycle robot mashing the freeways and choppers, I suspect it is the titular Fallen seeking his revenge.

Ravage ( the cougar robot ) looks like Gypsy from MSK3000 and the Alien had a love child.


Soundwave is in this one as well as the real Devestator and the constructicons. NO DINOBOTS...makes me cry.

[Loredoctor]

Okay, the first one wasn't a masterpiece

You take that back right now!

For the record, I love the movie and I own the dvd.

From the looks of the face plate of the massive motor cycle robot mashing the freeways and choppers, I suspect it is the titular Fallen seeking his revenge.

No it's not. It's one of the Constructicons. Have a look at this image here (poorly transformed)





Further, the Fallen is likely to be Megatron, who is returning in the movie. This time he is a tank.

[Kevin164]

Take a look at the Super Bowl trailer and go frame by frame, you'll see that the massive robot is similar to a motorcycle in its vehicle mode, rather than an earth construction vehicle. It uses its front wheel rather than legs and its back wheel sits like a bear hump when in robot mode. Looking at the face plate it is very similar to the one on the poster (almost Egyptian looking).

I don't think it's a Constructicon, yet who can tell with Bay writing the treatment over the writer's strike.

I'll go with Bay thinking that Megatron's spark was transfered into Sam when he shoved the Allspark into the Decepticon's chest at the end of the first movie. Soundwave leads the salvage/rescue of Megatron's body by attacking the fleet that dropped him into ocean to gain its location. That would probably explain Ravage exiting the ocean. He's supposed to be some sort of missile that Soundwave can use similar to the Scorpion attachment in the first movie.

A pretender is dispatched to locate Sam, and a host of new Autobots are there to protect him against a host of new Decepticons trying to capture him.
From Bay and his head writer they have both confirmed the Fallen being a separate new threat rather than Megatron. Jetfire has been confirmed as a Decepticon that goes over to the Autobots. Supposedly he can take on a alt-form that can act as a booster rocket pack that Optimus can use in order to fly.

No Dinobots...still makes me cry.

The Constructicons are slated for this movie. Devastator is supposed to be more like a great ape in how he moves. So he's massive but takes on the more low four legged stance that the Bayformers seem to revert to when fighting.

That Constructicon image is close, but there are some real differences between the massive cycle robot taking on the army that has me differing in opinions on your assessment. You can go "nah nah" after we see it on the screen if your right.

[Loredoctor]

It's the construction vehicle. Hasbro said that when the machine is in robot mode it uses one set of tracks to move about. You can clearly see that in the movie.

Further, look at this screen capture. And look at the image of the construction image above. Can you see the striped pattern on the side of the vehicle? It happens to be on the bulky section in the upper left of the robot.

[Kevin164]

I can admit when I'm wrong. Here's a pic of the Fallen and Devastator curtesy of the TF2005 board and Action Toys.










So the Massive cycle bot is a triple changer and from the looks of it forms the central chest shoulders on Devestator. Still no Dinobots makes me cry.


Judging from the size of the machine in the Super Bowl Trailer, Devastor is going to be able to take on Godzilla.

[Loredoctor]

I saw the Fallen design the other day and I love it, but as for Devastator I am not sure. It looks weird.

[Loredoctor]

I booked my tickets to see the movie on the opening night. I cannot wait!

[dANdeLION]

Yay, more stupid bullshit from Michael Bay.

Foul, there are other reasons to see this movie........

[Zarathustra]

"Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" is a horrible experience of unbearable length, briefly punctuated by three or four amusing moments. One of these involves a dog-like robot humping the leg of the heroine. Such are the meager joys. If you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together. Then close your eyes and use your imagination.

The plot is incomprehensible. The dialog of the Autobots, Deceptibots and Otherbots is meaningless word flap. Their accents are Brooklyese, British and hip-hop, as befits a race from the distant stars. Their appearance looks like junkyard throw-up. They are dumb as a rock. They share the film with human characters who are much more interesting, and that is very faint praise indeed.

The movie has been signed by Michael Bay. This is the same man who directed "The Rock" in 1996. Now he has made "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen." Faust made a better deal. This isn't a film so much as a toy tie-in. Children holding a Transformer toy in their hand can invest it with wonder and magic, imagining it doing brave deeds and remaining always their friend. I knew a little boy once who lost his blue toy truck at the movies, and cried as if his heart would break. Such a child might regard "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" with fear and dismay.

The human actors are in a witless sitcom part of the time, and lot of the rest of their time is spent running in slo-mo away from explosions, although--hello!--you can't outrun an explosion. They also make speeches like this one by John Turturro: "Oh, no! The machine is buried in the pyramid! If they turn it on, it will destroy the sun! Not on my watch!" The humans, including lots of U.S. troops, shoot at the Transformers a lot, although never in the history of science fiction has an alien been harmed by gunfire.

There are many great-looking babes in the film, who are made up to a flawless perfection and look just like real women, if you are a junior fanboy whose experience of the gender is limited to lad magazines. The two most inexplicable characters are Ron and Judy Witwicky (Kevin Dunn and Julie White), who are the parents of Shia LaBeouf, who Mephistopheles threw in to sweeten the deal. They take their son away to Princeton, apparently a party school, where Judy eats some pot and goes berserk. Later they swoop down out of the sky on Egypt, for reasons the movie doesn't make crystal clear, so they also can run in slo-mo from explosions.

The battle scenes are bewildering. A Bot makes no visual sense anyway, but two or three tangled up together create an incomprehensible confusion. I find it amusing that creatures that can unfold out of a Camaro and stand four stories high do most of their fighting with...fists. Like I say, dumber than a box of staples. They have tiny little heads, except for Starscream®, who is so ancient he has an aluminum beard.

Aware that this movie opened in England seven hours before Chicago time and the morning papers would be on the streets, after writing the above I looked up the first reviews as a reality check. I was reassured: "Like watching paint dry while getting hit over the head with a frying pan!" (Bradshaw, Guardian); "Sums up everything that is most tedious, crass and despicable about modern Hollywood!" (Tookey, Daily Mail); "A giant, lumbering idiot of a movie!" (Edwards, Daily Mirror). The first American review, however, reported that it "feels destined to be the biggest movie of all time" (Todd Gilchrist, Cinematical). It’s certainly the biggest something of all time.

Massawyrm pretty much hates everything about TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN!!

Hola all. Massawyrm here.

Sigh. I can’t believe my eyes. I don’t want to believe them. TRANSFORMERS REVENGE OF THE FALLEN is one of the most unrepentantly juvenile, gleefully offensive, mind bogglingly inane films I have ever seen with a real budget behind it. And that’s saying a lot. There are things here I never would have believed had I read about them – things I would have found to be exaggeration and hyperbole on the part of oversensitive, agenda driven people looking for a fight. But I saw them, plain as day. And I’m still having a hard time believing what I saw.

[snip]

Here Bay magnifies EVERYTHING bad about the first [film]. You thought robot pissing was weak? Check out robot farting, robot crying and giant, clanging robo-testicles. Oh yeah. Michael Bay wanted his big cast iron balls in the film and there they are, dangling off of Devastator in one of the film’s defining dramatic moments. I guess he couldn’t get away with a giant, limp swinging cyber-phallus, so he went with the next best thing.

[snip]

Which leads to the next issue – the plot. There isn’t one. As one reviewer pointed out, this film is roughly a few minutes longer than 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY - and yet it can’t scrape together enough of a story to be, you know, somewhat comprehensible. I mean there are a few story elements here that get strung together into something resembling a MOVIE, but there’s zero through line that anyone can explain.


[snip]

But the action…the action has to be pretty awesome, right? Um. No, actually. This time around it is even harder to discern than before. Bay puts all the focus on the humans whenever possible, with the giant robots doing all their fighting in the background. Most of the time the fighting is so fast and furious that it is a series of digital blurs – the audience left unable to discern which is the Autobot and which is the Decepticon. The audience broke into applause no less than 5 times during the film, but this only further punctuated the problems as it was always during a slo-mo scene of violence. You see, when you can actually tell what is going on, the fighting is AWESOME. There are some truly spectacular moments of robot on robot assbeating - all of them in slow motion. But the rest of the time you won’t know and probably won’t care what’s going on.

This film is a total and complete waste; a soggy, half baked dessert of a film that you can’t even say “Well, at least the action was cool.” It is an embarrassment, a pathetic misuse of hundreds of millions of dollars that only serves as the new model for excess run amok. Hopefully ten years from now I can put this in and laugh about it the way I laugh about BATMAN AND ROBIN, giggling furiously at the idea that they spent that much money of robot balls and a cybernetic minstrel show. But right now I’m too disappointed, too bitter and just too appalled to find any of this funny. You know, now that I think about it, maybe Bay got his giant, limp, swinging cyber-phallus after all. It’s called TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN.

I think I'll pass.

[Cail]

I couldn't sit through the first one, no way I'm wasting money on this.

[dlbpharmd]

I couldn't sit through the first one, no way I'm wasting money on this.

Same here. But, the random pics of Megan Fox are nice. Keep 'em going, dAN.

[Cail]

[Rigel]

The movie has been signed by Michael Bay. This is the same man who directed "The Rock" in 1996.

What's wrong with The Rock? I genuinely enjoyed it.

It's a lot better than a lot of the other trashy action movies that have come out since then (T3 and Die Hard 4 come to mind).

[Loredoctor]

I just got home after seeing the movie. Overall, it was very enjoyable, but there are some serious problems. Megatron, Ravage, Starscream and the Fallen were all very well done (especially Starscream), and the battle sequences were exceptional. Soundwave was well done (more on him below). However, the movie could have done without the childish humour (a robot thrusting its hips on someone's legs like a dog? The wrecking balls under Devastator's groin was awful . . . I could go on). Some of the characters were badly done - especially the autobot twins.

Regarding Soundwave. I was a member of one of the biggest Transformer forums online - one that Bay, a producer, and the writers visit now and then. Before Revenge of the Fallen was even announced, several members discussed possible versions of Soundwave.

Spoiler

The version I detailed is quite identical to what was on screen. Soundwave's deploying of the tendrils was something I came up with. Now, it may be a coincidence, but it's a hell of a coincidence.

Anyway, I give the movie 3 and-a-half stars. The first movie is better, but this movie really does the Decepticons justice, even though they get trashed.

[CovenantJr]

I'm wary of this film. The first one way ok, but the phrase 'jumbled mess' comes to mind. A few people I know have said this is more of the same, so I don't know if I can be bothered to see it.

The movie has been signed by Michael Bay. This is the same man who directed "The Rock" in 1996.

What's wrong with The Rock? I genuinely enjoyed it.

I'm a fan of The Rock. Good film, as 90s action goes.

[Cail]

Yeah, The Rock is stupid, and Nick Cage is appallingly awful in it (at least there's no bees), but I do enjoy the movie.