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They remade Pelham?

The original is fantastic.
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:hairs: yah, what he said... there was a remake?!
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yes, the remake was very good. Donofrio is electrifying in it. i belive it was a tv movie, but well done. the Original of course is a great movie. a lot of movies in the 70's seemed to move along. Capricorn One being an example I saw recently. it has held up.
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Capricorn One was a good movie. I'm surprised no one's remade it yet.
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that and the Andromeda Strain
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I can't believe we didn't include Richard Roundtree as Shaft!
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Cail wrote:Capricorn One was a good movie. I'm surprised no one's remade it yet.
I expect Al Gore to remake it as a sequel to "Inconvenient Truth"
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That would figure, wouldn't it.....
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Cail wrote:Capricorn One was a good movie. I'm surprised no one's remade it yet.
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Whilst John Carpenter may be the founding father of late 70's to early 90's genre movies, Peter Hyams proved over the same period to be one of the more reliable directors out there in that time.

Granted almost none of his films one would consider a masterpiece, but looking back on them his assorted filmmography delivered some flawed yet entertaining science-fiction tales and lightly enjoyable action thrillers that still hold up well today.

"2010," "Outland," "Timecop," "The Star Chamber," "The Presidio," "Sudden Death," "The Relic," "End of Days" - it was a pretty solid track record with admittedly the odd stumble ("A Sound of Thunder," "The Musketeer," "Stay Tuned").

Now, like Carpenter, he's finding much of his early works are about to get the remake treatment. Already the Michael Douglas-led "The Star Chamber" and Sean Connery-led "Outland" are being remade, now "Capricorn One" is also on the cards reports Moviehole.

Elliott Gould, James Brolin, O.J. Simpson, Karen Black, Telly Savalas, Sam Waterston and Brenda Vaccaro all starred in the original 1978 thriller about the first manned Mars mission.

The astronauts are pulled off the launchpad and forced for several months to work in a secret soundstage where they fake the landing expedition due to a major defect in the space vehicle which NASA just can't admit too.

Meanwhile a journalist is on the trail of the truth, yet every time he gets closer someone tries to take him out.

Peter Buchman ("Jurassic Park III") will write and David Dobkin ("Shanghai Knights") is set to direct the remake entitled "Capricorn Two" for Regency Films. Shooting is slated to start later this year.
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Nobody's mentioned "The Governator" yet...but gotta say Arnie's "Terminator" is a pretty good badass...

And I loved John Malkovich's Vicomt de Valmont in "Dangerous Liaisons"
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Well, it appears that we here at KW are way ahead of the curve.... MTV is searching for the greatest cinematic badass.
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The article (and Cail's avatar) serve to remind me that John McClane (Bruce Willis) is by a wide margin the most aggressive, self sacrificing badass cinema has ever seen. The guy isn't the biggest dude. He's not super powered. He's not a master of martial arts. He's not been the recipient of advanced military training. He's just a shlub that flat out kicks your ass one way or another and does it with a smirk on his face. Also he doesn't give a sh#t if he gets absolutely pummeled, crushed, stabbed, shot or blown up. He's going to get you....period.

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No doubt. I'd put Jack Burton up there as well for purely sentimental reasons, but no badass has ever taken more physical punishment, shrugged it off, then kicked ass like John McClaine.
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Cail wrote:No doubt. I'd put Jack Burton up there as well for purely sentimental reasons, but no badass has ever taken more physical punishment, shrugged it off, then kicked ass like John McClaine.

Hey. I love the Jack Burton character, as much or more than any other made famous by Kurt Russel. But...aside from the notable ability to snatch a knife, thrown at his face, out of the air and instantly hurl it back to where it came from...lets face it Burton doesn't really do a hell of a lot except futily and bombastically try his best. Which makes him so much fun to watch. :biggrin:
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You've gotta give 'ol Jack an "A" for effort, if not for actual results.
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George Clooney as Seth Gecko in FROM DUSK TILL DAWN, now is my sh*t together, or is my sh*t together.
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Cail wrote:Berenger in the original Substitute and Sniper.

Eastwood in Dirty Harry and the westerns.

Bruce Willis in Die Hard.

Chow Yun Fat in Hardboiled, A Better Tomorrow, and The Killer.

Kevin Costner in Open Range.

Kevin Spacey in Se7en.
An opportunity for me to reciprocate on the impeccable taste front, especially Open Range and the oft unappreciated Berenger to which I'd add him in Platoon.

I'd also chuck in Eastwood in Heartbreak Ridge (and Gran Torino)

Seagal in Under Siege (tho' he's a bit of a joke now, he was good in that)

Connery in The Rock and Crowe in Gladiator.




I've long subscribed to a theory that there are only about 35-40 stories ever. This makes the character list finite and thus the roles in movies finite. As such the roles played over the years fit within a mould, the action hero, the quiet hero, the megalomaniac bad guy, the evil bad guy, the romantic lead (M/F) the comic sidekick etc etc.

The actors who play these roles thus become generational, as John Wayne dies, so emerges Bruce Willis, as Robert Redford wanes so waxes Brad Pitt, etc. If you go back further the same roles are there, played by the previous generation of actors, Gable, Bogart, Peck etc.

Just a theory........ perhaps a topic: "who succeded who"?
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I'd go with the chicken...
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