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My sister's response:SRD wrote:Something there is in beauty
which grows in the soul of the beholder
like a flower--
fragile--
for many are the blights
which may waste
the beauty
or the beholder--
and imperishable--
for the beauty may die
or the beholder may die
or the world may die
but the soul in which the flower grows
survives.
Precisely. There is a serious problem when one uses certain forms in literature [including poetry], state of being verbs [ like there is ] being one of themMsMary wrote:Some may not love SRD's poetry, but that would not necessarily be a reason to reject LFB.
. But a few lines of badly written [though the sentiment/purpose is important to the story] poetry is a ridiculous reason to avoid a book. Heh..as is a bad title, though I succumb to that regularly. Hey MM... D'oh! Yeah... I actually wasn't trying to get my sis to read the Chronicles. (I generally don't try to get people to read the Chrons, strangely enough. Even though I sort of want to... I decide not to in most cases.) I was sharing the poem with her because I LOVE it and it was related to the conversation we were having on AIM.matrixman wrote:Btw, Lina, I didn't mean that you were bashing SRD, of course. Sometimes I just trip over myself in my, um, state of ire when I'm defending Donaldson.
Which one?MsMary wrote:I can think of other reasons people can't get into LFB exclusive of the poetry (which I frankly think isn't the reason):
People are turned off by the bad thing TC does fairly early in the book.
Yeahhhhh... I think the rape is WAY WAY WAY more significant in this whole thing than any sort of problems people may have with the poetry. (including but not limited to "hearing" the words in your head in a "Yoda voice") Just... nobody got my irony.MsMary wrote:I can think of other reasons people can't get into LFB exclusive of the poetry (which I frankly think isn't the reason):
People are turned off by the bad thing TC does fairly early in the book.
TC is a sort of anti-hero hero, and people can't get into that.
I know that's what she meant. I couldn't resist asking due to her seeming too squeamish to say the word outright.ashke09 wrote:I think he means the rape.
I think MsMary just wanted to avoid spilling that major plot point out of courtesy for those who may be browsing this forum but have not yet read the book. Heh, obviously too late now. : PDemondim-spawn wrote:I know that's what she meant. I couldn't resist asking due to her seeming too squeamish to say the word outright.ashke09 wrote:I think he means the rape.
I read it as part of an engrossing story, but I don't think I grasped the awfulness of what Covenant had done until later. Maybe the fact that I read LFB at age 13 meant I was a tad naive about the concept of rape - I understood what it meant intellectually, but not emotionally.I honestly don't recall what kind of reaction I had to Covenant's rape of Lena the first time I read LFB.
I read LFB around the same age, so I couldn't tell you how I really felt about it then either... but I CAN tell you how I reacted to Covenant's feelings in TIW when I read it for the first time, I was completely disgusted. Having just reread the First Chronicles again, I'm affected by both heinous acts almost equally now.matrixman wrote:I read it as part of an engrossing story, but I don't think I grasped the awfulness of what Covenant had done until later. Maybe the fact that I read LFB at age 13 meant I was a tad naive about the concept of rape - I understood what it meant intellectually, but not emotionally.I honestly don't recall what kind of reaction I had to Covenant's rape of Lena the first time I read LFB.
